What are you telling your kids about getting a degree/career?
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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 4/6 at 9:32 pm to lsufan112001
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when i say competitive, i meant oversaturated. Such as a Biologiy degree. which is in my area. of course everyone is saying engineering, but obviously that gap will be filled in if most are pushing in that direction and it becomes to have too much competition. we had 130 to apply for one job where i'm at, turning down folks with Masters left and right. and this was an entry level job.


Ouch.

I believe it though. My company hired a recent biology graduate a little while back. Great for us, but there's no way someone that good should have been available.



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Posted by BelleTigre11 on 4/6 at 10:50 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Out of curiosity, for those of you who say a college degree isn't necessary in today's world, what job would you suggest to a high school senior after graduation which would allow him to become just as successful as his classmates who plan on going to college?


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Posted by Sigma on 4/7 at 3:45 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Went to my 10 year HS reunion a couple years ago, and was secretly laughing at the fact that I out earned, usually by 3x or more, all of my friends who have more degrees than a thermometer. The disappointed look on some of their faces when I answered the following questions was priceless


Oh how I hate these kind of people. You sound like you're actually still in high school.



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Posted by TyOconner on 4/7 at 3:47 am to Sigma
I would think it is inevitable for them to be so high on themselves. They took a much larger amount of risk than the average person takes by not going to college and when they became successful anyway it really must pump their nuts up.


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Posted by Athanatos on 4/7 at 7:05 am to BelleTigre11
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Out of curiosity, for those of you who say a college degree isn't necessary in today's world, what job would you suggest to a high school senior after graduation which would allow him to become just as successful as his classmates who plan on going to college?


Work on/foe Offshore service vessels



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Posted by yellowfin on 4/7 at 7:49 am to BelleTigre11
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Posted by BelleTigre11 Out of curiosity, for those of you who say a college degree isn't necessary in today's world, what job would you suggest to a high school senior after graduation which would allow him to become just as successful as his classmates who plan on going to college?


Pretty much any skilled trade. Plumber, welder, electrician, etc. I'd do it myself for a few years and then start hiring people to work under me



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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 4/7 at 10:14 am to BelleTigre11
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Out of curiosity, for those of you who say a college degree isn't necessary in today's world, what job would you suggest to a high school senior after graduation which would allow him to become just as successful as his classmates who plan on going to college?


I still think you're better off having a college degree. You do gain something from the experience, and it opens more doors for you.

But I wouldn't recommend overpaying for it or taking on a lot of debt. I'd also take the labor market into account when choosing a major.



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Posted by Vols&Shaft83 on 4/7 at 11:20 am to TyOconner
To me, the risk of going into debt spending 4 years pursuing a degree I wasn't sure I wanted was greater than the risk of trying to find another path. I had no idea what I wanted to do at 18 years old. If I had known I wanted to be a doctor/lawyer/ engineer back then, I would have stayed in school, no question. So if an 18 year old is blessed enough to know what he/she is looking for, than college is where they need to be.

Part of the "pumping up of my nuts" comes from the years of ridicule I received from friends and family for my choice to leave school. It's hard not to feel a sense of cockyness & vindication when those same naysayers ask you for a job. Does that make sense?



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Posted by Bayou Tiger on 4/7 at 11:31 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Part of the "pumping up of my nuts" comes from the years of ridicule I received from friends and family for my choice to leave school. It's hard not to feel a sense of cockyness & vindication when those same naysayers ask you for a job. Does that make sense?
That makes perfect sense now that you explain it. But when you are unable to dial back the spiteful demeanor, it more than negates the positive impression from your accomplishments (comes across as small and insecure)... just in case you even care.



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Posted by AutoYes_Clown on 4/7 at 11:31 am to Vols&Shaft83
Why has no one suggested starting a Used Car Dealership?


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Posted by Vols&Shaft83 on 4/7 at 11:51 am to Bayou Tiger
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That makes perfect sense now that you explain it. But when you are unable to dial back the spiteful demeanor, it more than negates the positive impression from your accomplishments (comes across as small and insecure)... just in case you even care.




That's the problem with internets, it's hard to understand someone's perspective from just reading it. Lynx may not have meant what he posted as insulting, but it sure came across that way. As somebody who listened to the same false assumptions about self employment for years, I probably took it personally, perhaps a bit prematurely.



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Posted by yellowfin on 4/7 at 12:23 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I guess the Financial/Insurance industries would be the appropriate category, but more a mix of marketing/sales, consulting, & some Venture capitalism.



so you sell life insurance?



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Posted by Vols&Shaft83 on 4/7 at 3:11 pm to yellowfin
I am licensed to sell life insurance, but I rarely do. I take bids from life companies to become part of a benefits package for employees in various industries.


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Posted by EA6B on 4/7 at 8:52 pm to AutoYes_Clown
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Why has no one suggested starting a Used Car Dealership?


Between my wife's and my family we have more than a fair share of doctors, engineers and others with post graduate education, but the family member that is truly wealthy got that way with a string of used care dealerships. He barely made it through high school, but is very bright. Formal education is only compatible with certain personality types.



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Posted by horndog on 4/7 at 9:49 pm to lsufan112001
People need to do their homework on what degrees will be in demand in the future and not waste their college opportunity on crappy degrees. The occupational outlook website can give good insight into it.

Here's an example from the healthcare section of it.
LINK


This post was edited on 4/7 at 9:51 pm

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Posted by Carson123987 on 4/7 at 11:04 pm to lsufan112001
i will push my kids towards engineering, obviously.

in reality, if you are a smart person and know a few people, you will be successful no matter what.



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Posted by yellowfin on 4/8 at 7:56 am to Carson123987
Honestly I'll tell my kids to go to college for the experience and study something they enjoy, if it's engineering that's fine and if it's art history then that's good too.


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Posted by SouthTexasSaint on 4/8 at 1:12 pm to yellowfin
I tell my son to get a degree that means something and he enjoys. Thats why I went back to school, so i could tell him that without being a hypocrite. And when he complains about something not being fair, I tell him "life isnt fair, and the sooner you learn that, the better off you will be" Plus the never make excuses for yourself deal too.

He just turned four. Maybe Im pushing him too hard.



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Posted by Vols&Shaft83 on 4/8 at 1:44 pm to SouthTexasSaint
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He just turned four. Maybe Im pushing him too hard.


Not for Texas, in Oklahoma I'm pretty sure it's considered abusive



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Posted by JabarkusRussell on 4/25 at 8:43 pm to lsufan112001
If I have kids I'm telling them they are going to have to pay for college on their own. It is just getting too expensive. In grad school, I paid $1200 for 3 classes one semester. My last semester I paid $900 for one. I can't imagine how much it will cost in 18 years. I would gladly trade in my degree if it meant I had the money I spent on it.


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