" I don't care what anyone does as long as it doesn't affect me"
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Posted by ShortyRob on 3/14 at 10:37 am to Revelator
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I never mentioned anything about making certain activities illegal. I said people are afraid of saying something is right or wrong.
Really? Which people?

I mean for frick's sake. Practically everything going on in the political world these daysis people voting to get the govt to stop perceived "wrongs".



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Posted by foshizzle on 3/14 at 10:37 am to Revelator
Normal doesn't necessarily mean good or bad. Abnormal can be good sometimes, that's how civilization advances. Or bad, or meh.

BTW, you do realize that Christianity was considered pretty abnormal back in 0 BC, right? The government even killed known Christians sometimes.

Maybe you need to consider worshiping Baal, that was more normal then.



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Posted by Projectpat on 3/14 at 10:42 am to Revelator
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I never mentioned anything about making certain activities illegal. I said people are afraid of saying something is right or wrong.


There are plenty of people who do, but since this is the political board...



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Posted by theunknownknight on 3/14 at 10:45 am to Revelator
I disagree with ALOT of lifestyles. But I think the Christians should man up and influence culture instead of being influenced by it.

And the Government can GTFO



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Posted by klrstix on 3/14 at 10:51 am to theunknownknight
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But I think the Christians should man up and influence culture instead of being influenced by it.


BOOM!

I am a Christian and I totally agree with this...



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Posted by klrstix on 3/14 at 10:55 am to klrstix
Furthermore...

As a Christian I believe we (Christians) have a tendency to mistake our right to the ballot box (which is precious and significant...) as the main conduit to influence culture.



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Posted by theunknownknight on 3/14 at 10:58 am to klrstix
Part of influencing culture means becoming truly educated on how the culture thinks philosophically. One of the biggest issues I see is Christians sounding like retards when debating or speaking about the simplest concepts.

They need to quit being so lazy and put some actual effort into learning and engaging others.



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Posted by LSURussian on 3/14 at 10:58 am to joshnorris14
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I think the belief in religion is "wrong".

You have your own religion.



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Posted by riverparish on 3/14 at 10:59 am to Drew Orleans
years ago i was told, "we've always had alcoholics and drug addicts. the difference is a hundred years ago, you had to stay clean and sober long enough to work to be able to afford your next fix. if not, then darwinism ran its course."


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Posted by Projectpat on 3/14 at 11:01 am to theunknownknight
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Part of influencing culture means becoming truly educated on how the culture thinks philosophically. One of the biggest issues I see is Christians sounding like retards when debating or speaking about the simplest concepts.

They need to quit being so lazy and put some actual effort into learning and engaging others.


I can agree with this.



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Posted by LSURussian on 3/14 at 11:02 am to Revelator
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I do have trouble with that word.

Just remember that "affect" is usually used as a verb and "effect" is usually used as a noun, i.e., "special effects."



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Posted by theunknownknight on 3/14 at 11:02 am to joshnorris14
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I think the belief in religion is "wrong".


By assigning moral value to this, you just entered the realm of judging world views. In doing so, you implicitly assert your worldview as above and more correct than others making your calculation drip of religious fervency.



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Posted by badlands on 3/14 at 11:03 am to Joshjrn
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There is a difference between caring and legislating. I think living on a diet of Cheetos and Mountain Dew is bad. I don't think it should be illegal.


+1
about as good of a point as can be made.



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Posted by Patrick O Rly on 3/14 at 11:04 am to Revelator
You sound like one of them small government conservative types.


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Posted by davesdawgs on 3/14 at 11:04 am to Revelator
Yep, it's inconsistent with our savior's mantra of: "you didn't build that", we are all interconnected which I agree with to the extent that no one succeeds in isolation. But in the case of homosexual marriage, a federal homosexual marriage law/amendment would have a direct impact on any religious person who performs marriages and believes that homosexuality is immoral and will not conduct homosexual marriages. The law would immediately place them in violation of civil rights regardless of any religious exclusion that might be added. And such an exclusion will be challenged by homosexuals placing the Supreme Court between a rock and a hard place relative to civil rights vs freedom of religion. Rand Paul has the right idea. The government needs to get out of the marriage business; it's an accident waiting to happen. Any civil rights associated with marriage, taxes, etc. should be referred to as civil unions.

This post was edited on 3/14 at 11:10 am

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Posted by joshnorris14 on 3/14 at 11:06 am to theunknownknight
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s. In doing so, you implicitly assert your worldview as above and more correct than others making your calculation drip of religious fervency.


Incorrect. I am asserting my preferences and beliefs as above others. Which they are, implicitly.



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Posted by klrstix on 3/14 at 11:10 am to theunknownknight
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Part of influencing culture means becoming truly educated on how the culture thinks philosophically. One of the biggest issues I see is Christians sounding like retards when debating or speaking about the simplest concepts.

They need to quit being so lazy and put some actual effort into learning and engaging others.


"sounding like retards" would probably be true of most of the rank and file of Christendom.



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Posted by theunknownknight on 3/14 at 11:11 am to joshnorris14
See def 2 and 3 of religion.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices

Seeing that there are several people that hold your "set of beliefs and practices" toward religion on this board alone, technically your view has become religious.



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Posted by ShortyRob on 3/14 at 11:13 am to LSURussian
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Just remember that "affect" is usually used as a verb and "effect" is usually used as a noun, i.e., "special effects."


The effect of that offense was to confuse the defense.

The defense was affected by the ingenious offense.




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Posted by joshnorris14 on 3/14 at 11:13 am to theunknownknight
You can stretch the definition to mean anything you want. I'll still hold the same beliefs


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