Do you consider yourself a "Prepper"
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re: Do you consider yourself a "Prepper"
Posted by KingRanch on 2/17 at 10:53 am to Good Times
good times


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Posted by Good Times on 2/17 at 10:56 am to El Josey Wales
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Sounds like Good Times to me.




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Posted by Hammertime on 2/17 at 10:59 am to El Josey Wales
Lick her before beer, you're in the clear
Beer before lick her, never been sicker


Sounds counter-intuitive, but seems to be the standard way of conducting yourself when SHTF



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Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 2/17 at 11:01 am to Spankum
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I consider being prepared just thinking about how you would do things in a pinch and not really spending your life savings installing a bunker and buying years worth of food...



Yeah, people amassing a years worth of stuff are doing it wrong. Living somewhere sustainable and learning how to get by with less is how you survive. Not amassing qty's of goods that could get stolen or get you killed. Simplifying, not storing is the proper SHTF preparation.



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Posted by Reubaltaich on 2/17 at 11:32 am to Hammertime
I am somewhat of a prepper, not as hardcore as some of those folks you see on TV or on youtube but since my stint in the military(over seas) and after watching what went down during Katrina, I decided I wasn't gonna get caught without.

Biggest prep that people don't have is good old water. Yeah, they have a ton of ammo and a dozen weapon, 6 months of food but just a week or two worth of water.
In fact, water is probably the easiest but must important prep you will have.

I would suggest to anyone that you have several cases of bottled water on hand, Aquafina keep longest, rotate it out. Don't just let it sit there.

Get you some of those big blue water containers like Aqua-Tainers, they hold 7 gallons and they don't have BPAs. Don't use milk jugs for water containers though, they are weak and degrade quickly. Those two liter soda bottles are good for storing water.

Millions of people die each year because of bad drinking water. Here in the US we have clean safe drinking water but in a SHTF scenerio it could turn bad quickly.

People think they can 'purify' water which is somewhat of a misnomer. Even the best water companies like Aquafina cannot purify water 100%. Reverse osmosis is about as close as you can get to purifying waterr.

The key word is 'disenfecting' water making it safe to drink.
You have to worry about three classes of micro-organisms:

1. Protozio: gardia, cyptosporiduims. These must be filtered out, resistant to chemicals like chlorine and idodin

2. Bacteria: E Coli, Dystentery, Botulism. Iodine or chlorine usually kills them and best to filter them out

3. Virus: Very difficult to filter out. Must boil water, chemical decontamination.

Then you have chemicals like pesitcides, herbicides, oil/gas. These are fitlered out through use of a carbon based filter.

Best thing to do is get a good filtration system like a Katadyn, a Sawyer, Monolithic or Berkey.

Also, keep a gallon of non-scented liquid bleach on hand, just remember though, after about 6 months, its strength starts to disappaite.

Better yet, get a few pounds of calcium hypochlorite granuals, pool shock. 5 lbs will last you for years.
Just remember, this stuff is extremely strong and will have to be diluted. Use 1 teaspoon for two gallons of water.

I live out in the country(northeast La) away from any major urban areas. I have two wells on my property and I am about 10 minutes away from a huge lake, plus I have a pond right across the road from me.

I keep my preps under wraps, no one other than my wife, knows that I keep a good supply of water, food, ammo and other supplies.

That will be the key to surviving a SHTF situtation. Keeping a low profile, not drawing attention to yourself will be a key to surviving.

If there ever is a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI, the first week will be the hardest as many will start to turn on each other for just the basics.

In the following weeks, the weak, the unprepared, the sick, elderly, the niave will be thinned out.

People will begin to turn on each, people will sell out their neighbors and freinds to roving bands of raiders for alittle food.

Small bands of militias will begin to form and then will further expand outward. Those with military or law enforcement experience will come out on top. Law and order will begin to be restored. Raiders, theives and the criminal elements will be hunted down and summerly executed.

TEOTWAWKI may never happen but you never know.




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Posted by lsufan112001 on 2/17 at 11:55 am to Reubaltaich
Yeah, people amassing a years worth of stuff are doing it wrong. Living somewhere sustainable and learning how to get by with less is how you survive. Not amassing qty's of goods that could get stolen or get you killed. Simplifying, not storing is the proper SHTF preparation
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damn Roger, you always get it right.



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Posted by Hammertime on 2/17 at 11:57 am to Reubaltaich
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In the following weeks, the weak, the unprepared, the sick, elderly, the niave will be thinned out.
In my experience, the two week mark is where everyone gets settled in for the long haul. People who are smart have everything under control and haven't panicked the prior two weeks so they are good to go.

All of this is just based off of my experience in hurricane situations, especially Katrina. Was crazy for a lot of people, but I was calm and perfectly fine. Cool heads prevail because they can think more clearly



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Posted by BAYOUBUCKEYE on 2/17 at 11:59 am to bdv1974
I bought an MRE for 5$ at a gun show last week.


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Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 2/17 at 12:00 pm to Hammertime
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In my experience, the two week mark is where everyone gets settled in for the long haul. People who are smart have everything under control and haven't panicked the prior two weeks so they are good to go.

All of this is just based off of my experience in hurricane situations, especially Katrina. Was crazy for a lot of people, but I was calm and perfectly fine. Cool heads prevail because they can think more clearly


Having a couple weeks or a months worth of stuff if you live in disaster prone areas is prudent. I've got enough stuff for 2-3 weeks to carry me over if an earthquake or avalanche destroys the town.



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Posted by Meauxjeaux on 2/17 at 12:03 pm to Hammertime
If Katrina is your experience, you have no experience.

Just saying.



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Posted by Nascar Fan on 2/17 at 12:18 pm to Good Times



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Posted by Nodust on 2/17 at 12:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Having a couple weeks or a months worth of stuff if you live in disaster prone areas is prudent

This is my thinking.



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Posted by Hammertime on 2/17 at 1:42 pm to Meauxjeaux
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If Katrina is your experience, you have no experience.
In understanding how people react in situations like that, it is the best domestic experience someone can have in a long time. Understanding what people are going to do and having first hand knowledge of how they go about doing it is something you can't get out of watching movies



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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 2/17 at 1:43 pm to bdv1974
Nah

I'm just gonna off a prepper or team up with the zombies.



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Posted by lsufan112001 on 2/17 at 1:46 pm to Nascar Fan
in regard to storing supplies, i think you have to consider:

1) how secure is your location. it does no good to have to fight off intruders. last thing you want to get in bad times is a leg shot or such. a big supply can be useless.

2) access to water/food. if you are in the city, you are doomed to produce such. i'm discouting stealing/scavenging. if you are on a good piece of land and have a few skills to develop food/h20, you'll be ok.

3) how to get to such a place. you won't just waltz down the road 100 miles to your place. most people will wait it out, and it'll be too late to make that venture. unless you grab a compass and hit the backwoods.


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Posted by Meauxjeaux on 2/17 at 2:04 pm to Hammertime
But Katrina was nothing like what we are talking about.

In Katrina, you had a bunch of displaced people waiting around to be taken to better shelter by their government. They knew all the supplies they needed to survive were a busride away.

Shtf scenarios are a lack of gov help and for weeks, if not months.

People will be nothing like they were in Katrina and it's not even close.




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Posted by Good Times on 2/17 at 2:11 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Shtf scenarios are a lack of gov help and for weeks, if not months.

People will be nothing like they were in Katrina and it's not even close.



Got that right.



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Posted by Hammertime on 2/17 at 2:50 pm to Meauxjeaux
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In Katrina, you had a bunch of displaced people waiting around to be taken to better shelter by their government. They knew all the supplies they needed to survive were a busride away.
The stuff you saw at the Superdome was kind of like that. Everywhere else was not. Even there, people started freaking out after a couple of days and they had government leadership all around. Myself and a few people I know had no intentions of leaving on a bus. One of the good treats was the Red Cross coming by and feeding us randomly. It almost parallels I think it was Andrew in South Florida. People will consistently react the same way in these situations.

Just from people I know very well and my personal experience, it was much different. One of my friends was trapped up a road 10 miles away from a city. Took 3 days without food plus two days with it to get to the city and resupply. Most of the food had gone bad and was getting thrown out. As soon as the storm passed, people were walking and driving around looking for stuff. I had national guard guys tell me that they wouldn't have let us in to work if we weren't armed. We had a guy outside at all times watching for people. He got in a fight with one guy because we wouldn't give him food. Until I found a big generator, we had no power for 2 weeks. Water was bad, sewers didn't work, and the police had taken over 95% of the places to get fuel and weren't giving it away.

I can tell you, people did freak out, had no way of leaving, no way to get water or food for close to two weeks, and started getting what they could from places. Most businesses were broken into

I a not sure of you think it is going to go a different way, but rational people do irrational things in the heat of the moment. One person can get a large crowd of people going crazy. IMHO, things will progress the exact same way that I have seen. General psychology of people is the same. You could actually see things happening day-by-day. The few radio stations that were still up had control of basically what everyone was thinking. If they say there is food or water somewhere, people flock. If there is barely any water or food, people fight.

Just think of how much people freak out if their cell phones don't work. Multiply that by a million.



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Posted by Helo on 2/17 at 3:20 pm to Hammertime
Preparing for emergencies is never a bad idea.
Everyone should be able to ride out 3-7 days at home with no power and no access to outside food and possibly water.

Your degree of preparation depends on your budget, how extensive you feel you want to prepare and what level of comfort you would try and maintain during an emergency.

My preparation is in degrees with the basics being preparing for an incoming hurricane with the proper warning. Leading up to a hurricane have many internal processes I implement (ie fill out WaterBob in spare bath tube, fill out 4 extra 5 gal gas cans etc) in addition to my standard preparations. My base preparation is always stay at home and make it through shelter in place indefinitely and maintain as much normal lifestyle as possible.

If things got really bad from some extraordinary event, I have some plans and the ability to load up by car and leave with mobile items or grab a BOB and leave. By viewing and preparing in degrees, I can overlap my plans but I have no illusions that I want to live off the land, I like my AC.

Keep in mind that the most likely "emergency" people will face year over year are intermediate power outages from thunderstorms, ice storms or something similar. What would you do without power for 12-72 hrs?

I am wanting to upgrade my generator and fuel supply this year. I threw out all my crappy 5 gal plastic cans and am getting the red 5gal metal Eagle cans. I hope to have 4 or 5 by June 1st. I hate my generator and am looking at getting something nicer this season, maybe a Honda or Yamaha (or 2).



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Posted by Spankum on 2/17 at 3:41 pm to Helo
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I threw out all my crappy 5 gal plastic cans and am getting the red 5gal metal Eagle cans


I did this a couple of years ago and it is just unbelievable how much longer fuel lasts when sealed up well in one of these cans...put in a little stabil and non ethanol gasoline would last years in one of these...



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