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Posted by blueslover on 2/16 at 8:08 am
assorted rankings as draft stock values start to settle in. I'm figuring Jordan & Hankins as the top most likely fit and values at #15 so far, so I highlighted them.

Scott Wright
1. Luke Joeckel
2. Jarvis Jones
3. Star Lotulelei
4. Chance Warmack
5. Bjoern Werner
6. Damontre Moore
7. Eric Fisher
8. Barkevious Mingo
9. Dee Milliner
10. Manti Te'o
11. Ezekiel Ansah
12. Johnathan Hankins
13. Geno Smith .
14. Sharrif Floyd
15. Sam Montgomery
16. Kenny Vaccaro
17. Dion Jordan
18. Sheldon Richardson
19. Matt Barkley
20. Jonathan Cooper
21. D.J. Fluker
22. Tyler Eifert
23. Cordarrelle Patterson
24. Zach Ertz
25. Johnathan Banks
26. Keenan Allen
27. Lane Johnson
28. John Jenkins
29. Alec Ogletree
30. Jesse Williams
31. Eric Reid
32. Arthur Brown

Some Mayock Top 5s
Outside linebacker
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
4. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
5. Arthur Brown, Kansas State
Defensive Tackle
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Star Lotulelei, Utah
3. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
4. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
T-5. Kawann Short, Purdue
T-5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
4. Desmond Trufant, Washington
5. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Johnathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Zeke Motta, Notre Dame
Inside linebacker
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon
1 Luke Joeckel Texas A&M LOT --
2 Bjoern Werner Florida State DE43 --
3 Star Lotulelei Utah DT43 + 1
4 Jarvis Jones Georgia OLB34 -1
5 Eric Fisher Central Michigan LOT + 2
6 Damontre Moore Texas A&M DE43 --
7 Dee Milliner Alabama CB -2
8 Chance Warmack Alabama OG + 2
9 Barkevious Mingo LSU OLB34 -1
10 Sheldon Richardson Missouri DT43 + 3
11 Dion Jordan Oregon DE43 --
12 Kenny Vaccaro Texas SS + 4
13 Keenan Allen California WRF -1
14 Geno Smith West Virginia QB + 1
15 Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee WRF + 4
16 Xavier Rhodes Florida State CB -2
17 Sharrif Floyd Florida DT43 + 18
18 Kevin Minter LSU SILB -1
19 Johnathan Hankins Ohio State DT34 -10
20 Arthur Brown Kansas State WILB + 22
21 Tavon Austin West Virginia WRS --
22 Jonathan Jenkins Georgia DT34 -2
23 Lane Johnson Oklahoma LOT + 1
24 Datone Jones UCLA DE34 -1
25 Tyler Eifert Notre Dame TE -7
1 Bjoern Werner
2 Luke Joeckel
3 Dion Jordan
4 Dee Milliner
5 Demontre Moore
6 Eric Fisher
7 Star Lotulelei
8 Chance Warmack
9 Johnathan Hankins
10 Jarvis Jones
11 Barkevious Mingo
12 Sam Montgomery
13 Ezekiel Ansah
14 Jesse Williams
15 D.J. Fluker
16 Tyler Eifert
17 Sheldon Richardson
18 Zach Ertz
19 Sharrif Floyd
20 Kevin Minter

Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M - 6'6 - 310
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama - 6'1 - 198
Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M - 6'4 - 250
Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State - 6'4 - 255
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah - 6'4 - 320
Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan - 6'8 - 305
Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia - 6'3 - 220
Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia - 6'3 - 241
Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama - 6'3 - 320
Barkevious Mingo, OLB, LSU - 6'5 - 240
Keenan Allen, WR, California - 6'3 - 210
Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU - 6'6 - 270
Kenny Vaccaro, SS, Texas - 6'1 - 218
Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee - 6'3 - 205
Alexander Ogletree, ILB, Georgia - 6'3 - 232
Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame - 6'2 - 255
Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri - 6'4 - 295
Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma - 6'7 - 303
Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon - 6'7 - 243
Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina - 6'3 - 295
Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State - 6'2 - 185
Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State - 6'3 - 322
Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida - 6'3 - 303
Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU - 6'2 - 245
Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia - 5'9 - 171

--plenty of updated mocks in the stickied thread

This post was edited on 2/16 at 8:26 am

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Posted by jamal on 2/16 at 8:12 am to blueslover
Good job for posting this excellent Info.

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Posted by Suntiger on 2/16 at 8:44 am to blueslover
I'm ehhhh on Hankins. I want an OLB pass rushing freak! Give me Jordan or Mingo!!!

Also, I like the fact that Kansas City and Arizona need QBs and won't likely get one they want in free agency. If they take a QB, that's a player or two that falls down the board.

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Posted by blueslover on 2/16 at 9:42 am to Suntiger

Kansas City and Arizona need QBs and won't likely get one they want in free agency.

The more drafted earlier the better for us fo sho. But why ya say unlikely?

Matt Flynn and Alex Smith will be had for not much since they'll likely be released anyway. Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassel, Matt Moore, Carson Palmer, etc all could move easily

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Posted by ATLienTiger on 2/16 at 10:05 am to blueslover
Probably because Alex Smith is heavily linked with the Jets.

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Posted by blueslover on 2/16 at 11:05 am to ATLienTiger
rotoworld on Smith-

ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms the 49ers will attempt to trade Alex Smith before granting him his release. and the Santa Rosa Press Democrat both reported as much last week. However, coach Jim Harbaugh insists the 49ers will "absolutely" consider Smith's wishes when deciding his future. Schefter also confirms the Browns and Chiefs as possible Smith destinations. Smith's $8.5 million 2013 salary will complicate any potential trade, while teams may not be willing to surrender more than a fourth- or fifth-round pick.

ESPN New York believes Alex Smith will "probably be too rich for the Jets' blood."
Smith is under contract for $8.5 million, and the Jets are already on the hook for $8.25 million to Mark Sanchez. More "cost-effective" veteran choices for the Jets include Tarvaris Jackson, Matt Flynn (if released by Seattle), and Matt Moore. It throws some cold water on the Smith-for-Darrelle Revis trade speculation.

ESPN's John Clayton believes Alex Smith would make a "beeline" to the Cardinals if granted his release instead of being traded.
Clayton also expects the Browns to be the "most interested" in a potential trade. Clayton appears to be expressing more his gut feeling than an actual sourced report, but both Arizona and Cleveland figure to leave no stone left unturned in their search for a quarterback. However, the weak-armed Smith is a poor fit with new Cardinals coach Bruce Arians on paper, as Arians is among the league's most ardent believers in the deep ball.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on NFL Live Wednesday that the trade market for Alex Smith is "limited," and there is "not a large buzz" about Smith among quarterback-needy teams.
Specifically, Smith going to the Browns is a "long shot," per Mortensen. The Jets can't afford his contract, the Cardinals are the 49ers' division opponent, and the Chiefs might explore Nick Foles or Geno Smith first. Anyone who's kept tabs on Smith the past two years won't be surprised. Smith was available in 2012 free agency, and only the 49ers and Dolphins showed much interest in him

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Posted by chrisksaint on 2/16 at 11:08 am to blueslover
Rather roll the dice and try getting a NT in the 3rd round opposed to the 1st

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Posted by jamal on 2/16 at 11:15 am to chrisksaint
Yea I like Brandon Williams plus we interviewed him so If he is there in the 3rd I think we will pull the Trigger on him

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Posted by blueslover on 2/16 at 12:17 pm to jamal
they do interview dozens of players ya know?



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Posted by monroesaintsfan on 2/16 at 3:30 pm to jamal

Yea I like Brandon Williams plus we interviewed him so If he is there in the 3rd I think we will pull the Trigger on him

I'd much rather see Williams in the third than any of the others (excluding Lotulelei, who will be long gone by our pick) at 15. If the Saints take a nt in the first I'd rather see them trade down and take Jenkins.

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Posted by Suntiger on 2/16 at 3:36 pm to blueslover
The 49ers don't have to trade Alex Smith since Kapernicks contract is cheap. Same with Flynn and Wilson. AND more importantly, the Seahawks and 49ers wouldn't want to trade to a division rival in Arizona.

It will depend on the combine and if KC or Arizona fall in love with a QBs workout.

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Posted by blueslover on 2/18 at 9:26 am to Suntiger
Beat writer Matt Barrows believes the Niners are attempting to "create the illusion" they could keep Smith in order to maintain leverage in trade talks. Smith's $8.5 million in scheduled pay is much too lofty for a clipboard holder, and keeping him would risk "locker room turmoil" if Kaepernick struggled. The 49ers will try to trade Smith. If they can't, they might just release him.

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Posted by goatmilker on 2/18 at 9:39 am to blueslover
A team would be dumb to consider a trade for Smith. Not worth the contract or trade bait. Wait for SF to drop his 8million dollar a$$.

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Posted by Jcorye1 on 2/18 at 2:09 pm to blueslover
What's your thoughts on Reid? I would be pissed if my team drafted him in the first round.

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Posted by Suntiger on 2/18 at 3:28 pm to blueslover
A couple of thoughts on Smith/Flynn vs Rookie.

If Smith or Flynn are released or traded, it likely won't be until the last minute because they won't be trying to do another team any favors.

And do you really want to build your team around either of these guys? Or would you rather take a chance on a rookie who will be cheaper and have more potential?

If I was a GM, I guess I'd do what Seattle/49ers did and signe a veteran (Smith/Flynn) and draft a QB I loved (Kapernick/Wilson) and hedge my bets if the rookie doesn't work out. That being said, do they take that 1st round rookie or that 3rd round rookie???

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Posted by klrstix on 2/18 at 4:05 pm to Suntiger
Jets need to dump Tebow and get A Smith.

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Posted by goatmilker on 2/18 at 4:08 pm to klrstix
They are all in on Sanchez after the soon to be fired GM extended his contract as a reward for top quality below avg play.

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Posted by blueslover on 2/18 at 5:21 pm to Jcorye1

What's your thoughts on Reid? I would be pissed if my team drafted him in the first round

mid 40s range if I was guessing right now, higher if a team was pressing for need

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Posted by blueslover on 2/18 at 5:39 pm to blueslover
NFP update, Lande has a few that are way off the consensus. It is big board too, not a mock, so keep that in mind. He has been a scout for 2 NFL teams so it's worth a look-


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Posted by wasteland on 2/18 at 5:57 pm to blueslover
i would have thought chris faulk would be much higher on that board

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