"Momentum" and the Blackout
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"Momentum" and the Blackout
Posted by H-Town Tiger on 2/4 at 5:33 pm
So a popular meme since last night was that the blackout took momentum from the Ravens and gave the 49ers new life. I'm curious, if that's true, as the always brilliant and insightful Stephen A Smith cvlaims, and not an just a coincidence, why did the 49ers come back after being down 20-0 vs Atlanta with out a black out? Why was Baltimore's first play after the BO a 15 yd pass completeion?


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Posted by DollaChoppa on 2/4 at 5:34 pm to H-Town Tiger
Was it a meme?


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Posted by castorinho on 2/4 at 5:37 pm to DollaChoppa



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Posted by DallasTiger11 on 2/4 at 5:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
It's a good thing Baltimore still won because had they not that black out would have become infamous and the game would be forever called the Blackout Bowl or something stupid.


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Posted by dukke v on 2/4 at 5:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Momentum" and the Blackout



It did effect Balts MOJO. But I had a feeling SF was gonna make a run anyway. Jim is too good a coach for his team to lay down and get whipped like that.I just feel if there was NO lights out that Balt would have put the game away before the 4th quarter started. But Hey.. Maybe CBS said we do NOT want a blowout and told someone to [MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN]... Ya NEVER KNOW.



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Posted by SabiDojo on 2/4 at 5:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
How could a 34 minute delay NOT change momentum? Do you know what "momentum" means?


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Posted by H-Town Tiger on 2/4 at 5:49 pm to dukke v
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It did effect Balts MOJO


How so? First play back, the 49ers did not get a first. Balt first play a 15 yds pass. What killed Atlanta's MOJO? There is unfortunately no way to prove it, but it happens all the time, way to often to say that the black out was the reason, it's just an easy excuse. Makes for a nice story but that's about it.



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Posted by H-Town Tiger on 2/4 at 5:52 pm to SabiDojo
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How could a 34 minute delay NOT change momentum


I really don't know how to answer that, why don't you explain to me why a 34 minute delay MUST change momentum.

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Do you know what "momentum" means?


Yes, do you what the phrase correlation does not equal causation means?

I also know why casinos put up board showing whether the Roulette Wheel has come up red or black the last 10 or so spins.



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Posted by Powerman on 2/4 at 6:00 pm to SabiDojo
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How could a 34 minute delay NOT change momentum? Do you know what "momentum" means?


It certainly could

But it's impossible to know what would have happened in the absence of the blackout

Did the blackout cause the Ray Rice fumble? No

And that contributed to the 49ers momentum




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Posted by SabiDojo on 2/4 at 6:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
"Correlation not equaling causation" applies to your argument as well. The fact that SF made a comeback against Atlanta doesn't disprove the argument that a delay, a variable not included in the Atlanta sample, was the reason for SF's comeback against Baltimore.

In other words, we can agree to disagree.


This post was edited on 2/4 at 6:04 pm

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Posted by jacks40 on 2/4 at 6:02 pm to Powerman
Does "momentum" exist? Yes

Is momentum vastly overrated by fans in the outcome of the game? Also yes.



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Posted by SabiDojo on 2/4 at 6:03 pm to jacks40
Remember what Shane Falco said about quicksand.


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Posted by dawgdayafternoon on 2/4 at 6:06 pm to H-Town Tiger
SF looked shellshocked up until that point but after the break, they regrouped and started making some plays to get momentum on their side, while Baltimore clearly just wasn't playing with the same intensity.

Not that hard to figure out.



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Posted by League Champs on 2/4 at 6:10 pm to Powerman
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Did the blackout cause the Ray Rice fumble? No

I'm sure that sitting on the sideline for 88 minutes affected focus, play calling, stamina, etc. which were a contributing factors

The fact that they got to catch their breath and refocus after the kick return WAS HUGE



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Posted by dukke v on 2/4 at 6:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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why don't you explain to me why a 34 minute delay MUST change momentum.


Its just being a football player just coming off a 30 minuite break THEY KNEW was coming and then going into ANOTHER 30 min break you didn't know was coming. The Ravens DOMINATED the 1st half and ran back the opening kickoff for a TD. The VIBES on that bench must have been going CRAZY. BUT then all the air seemed to come out when the delay hits and gives the 49ers even MORE time to get their shite together. That's all I am saying.



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Posted by KosmoCramer on 2/4 at 6:14 pm to dukke v
I think I actually agree with you for the first time ever.


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Posted by dukke v on 2/4 at 6:15 pm to KosmoCramer
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KosmoCramer


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I think I actually agree with you for the first time ever.








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Posted by KosmoCramer on 2/4 at 6:17 pm to dukke v
That was actually a well written, insightful post. There may be hope for you yet


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Posted by nvasil1 on 2/4 at 6:23 pm to SabiDojo
A delay in itself can slow the momentum of a team, but it doesn't automatically give it to the other team.

What got the 49ers back into the game was forcing a punt when Ray Rice was tackled a yard short of the 1st down. And it's impossible to definitively attribute that stop to the power outage since it was the 49ers first defensive series of the half.



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Posted by dukke v on 2/4 at 6:23 pm to KosmoCramer
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That was actually a well written, insightful post. There may be hope for you yet






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