Anybody experience spinal injury with their dog?
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re: Anybody experience spinal injury with their dog?
Posted by CoolBoy13 on 2/4 at 4:52 pm to Tiger4Ever
I went through this with my dachshund about 2 months ago. Mine slipped a disc. Trust me, best thing to do is just put it down


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Posted by TDswah on 2/4 at 4:53 pm to hedgehog
My Lab did the same thing. One day we were throwing frisbees and he went to jump up and grab it and landed really bad. He went to yelping like crazy and was dragging his back feet over the yard.

I had to run up and tackle him to get him to calm down. Got him inside and put him on the couch. He could barely stand on his back legs and couldn't move his neck.

After the vet visit, he started loosing up and walking around. His neck still was stiff.

I went and got him on some anti inflams and some joint/hip vitamins. He seems to be fine now. He does have some fatty tissue spots on his back legs, but he shows no sign of pain anymore.

I no longer play rough with him and let him jog around for about 10 minutes a day. He is around 9 years old.




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Posted by Vood on 2/4 at 5:01 pm to Tiger4Ever
Crate the dog for at least a week and only taking it out to go to the bathroom. This will let the swelling go down and if the trauma is temporary you should see improvement. She might just need time to heal.

As a former dachshund owner I have been through this and know your pain.

When she recovers crate your dog from now on when you leave. It truly is the best for them.



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Posted by PurpleAndGold86 on 2/4 at 5:04 pm to CoolBoy13
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Trust me, best thing to do is just put it down


People like you probably shouldn't voice your opinion on the matter.

I really hope the OP is listening to the vet and not the tards in here that are just saying to put it down with all of their knowledge of veterinary medicine.



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Posted by CoolBoy13 on 2/4 at 5:14 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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People like you probably shouldn't voice your opinion on the matter.


This happened to my dachshund and we shelled out 3 g's to get the surgery + steroid injections. Long story short a week later it never recovered and we got to see it suffer the whole way through. But yea, he shouldnt listen to people like me



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Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow on 2/4 at 5:19 pm to CoolBoy13
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This happened to my dachshund and we shelled out 3 g's to get the surgery + steroid injections. Long story short a week later it never recovered and we got to see it suffer the whole way through. But yea, he shouldnt listen to people like me


The fact is that your situation is not his situation and making statements like you just did do not serve a purpose. Some dogs heal with crate rest, some won't. Your advice is not sound advice and he hopefully is consulting with his vet.



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Posted by PurpleAndGold86 on 2/4 at 5:39 pm to CoolBoy13
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This happened to my dachshund and we shelled out 3 g's to get the surgery + steroid injections. Long story short a week later it never recovered and we got to see it suffer the whole way through. But yea, he shouldnt listen to people like me


You are right. He shouldn't.

Just because your dog didn't make it doesn't mean his wont. He should listen to someone with some semblance of a clue, not someone posting on a message board.


This post was edited on 2/4 at 5:44 pm

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Posted by FelicianaTigerfan on 2/4 at 6:00 pm to Tiger4Ever
When it happened to our dog the vet did say that there are muscle relaxers that have worked on some dogs. They just have to live off of them the rest of their life.


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Posted by Tiger4Ever on 2/4 at 6:29 pm to PurpleAndGold86
I'm definitely going with the vet's advice...she'll be honest and has been.

She's still struggling with mobility as it looks like her left hind leg is locking up. She did urinate on herself while laying on her bed.

Thanks for the responses...I was looking for experiences with this good or bad.



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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 2/4 at 6:45 pm to Tiger4Ever
If the dog isn't in any pain, they do make wheelchairs for them. A few months before Katrina I met a family that had an Irish setter with paralyzed hind legs. They were selling their house and moving to the country to give the dog more room.

Very happy dog. Just dragged its hind quarters when it wasn't using the chair.



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Posted by lsewwww on 2/4 at 6:59 pm to Tiger4Ever
Most disks are in the lower back at t11-L2, but can happen in the neck or lower lower back. There are some details that are very important to understand:

1.Dachshunds and other long backed dogs like Bassets, Cockers, shih tzus are more likely to rupture a disk (and maybe not just once). Their disks are acute and high impact, not chronic like a 14 yr old Dalmation would have. These acute disks do well with surgery (think LSU or Miss St)
2.Surgery is surprisingly effective IF it is at the right time in the right patient and the surgery GROUP knows what they are doing (techs, anesthesiologist, surgeon, rehabber)
3. Some dogs (10%) have an acute disk and develop ascending/descending necrosis of the spinal cord because of the impact- UNFIXABLE- this sucks when it happens after the surgery and you just dropped 6-7g.

REST is the key if not doing surgery. I don't mean one week, I don't mean 4 weeks, I mean up to 1 year of intensive TLC keeping the dog the proper weight, clean and free of bedsores, starting rehab at 8 weeks, etc. Most dogs improve by 8 weeks but I've seen one dog regain the ability walk at 1 year. This is not a 100% recovery injury- They make carts for these dogs for a reason.

PS acute disks almost never show up on x-rays, just vague signs if chronic. Myelogram or CT/MRI is only way to localize the lesion for the surgeon.



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Posted by Tiger4Ever on 2/4 at 7:03 pm to lsewwww
For background...she's a 5 year old lab/catahoula mix.

Also, her symptoms took 12-24 hours to develop...specifically the trouble walking and walking on her knuckles.

Don't know of that is overly significant, but that is assuming something happened the two hours she was loose Saturday night.



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Posted by lsewwww on 2/4 at 7:12 pm to Tiger4Ever
Yeah they do that. The cord gets hit, then it swells and shuts off the signal from the brain. Usually that time. Sucks when you think your dog escaped injury after being hit by a car and is paralyzed 2 days later. If your dog is just knuckling, you're in good shape. Dogs with no deep pain are the worst


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Posted by Tiger4Ever on 2/4 at 7:18 pm to lsewwww
Without shelling out for an MRI at this point, what is our best case scenario do you think? Over the next 5 days or so that is.


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Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow on 2/4 at 7:36 pm to Tiger4Ever
You’ve gotten some great advice from a couple of posts up. From my personal experiences, I’ve had several dogs with these types of issues, from Dachshunds to Labs, and all have healed over time. It required lengthy crate rest periods, and the help of NSAIDs like Rimadyl. I’ve also been prescribed Tramadol, which was a very odd drug with most of them, but it worked. I found that Tramadol made them a little wonky and had to adjust their dosages.



My vet explained to me that in most cases, these types of injuries just require the time to heal, and what’s hard is that crate rest is really tough on you because on the meds, they will fell like superdog. You CANNOT give in though because they can seriously hurt themselves because they feel limited pain.



My vet also explained that most of these cases are not as severe as most people think, but the pain is most definitely severe enough for them. Basically, he told me that if it wasn’t cancer (which an MRI will reveal), it’s something that time can and will heal if the owner is patient enough to take the time.



The vet I use is a close personal friend and he is about as honest as they come. I know you have a million things running through your head with a Disney trip coming soon, but please take it slow and make sure your dog is simply not treatable before putting him/her down. This is coming from a huge Disney fan (look at my avatar and sig) who has been in a very similar situation. I hope it works out and please update this thread. If I can do anything for you, please let me know. I hate to hear these stories. 



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Posted by LSUDVM1999 on 2/4 at 7:37 pm to Tiger4Ever
Tiger,where are you located? There are vets who do acupuncture and rehabilitation that may be able to help you (if you're interested). I can help direct you to someone who does this if you tell me where you're located.


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Posted by Mr. Tom Morrow on 2/4 at 7:46 pm to LSUDVM1999
You guys are offering some great advice.


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Posted by Tiger4Ever on 2/4 at 7:55 pm to LSUDVM1999
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Tiger,where are you located? There are vets who do acupuncture and rehabilitation that may be able to help you (if you're interested). I can help direct you to someone who does this if you tell me where you're located.



Baton Rouge area.

Evidently she got up and dropped a deuce on the floor and laid back down on her own. The only time I'll let her drop a turd on the floor and not be upset.



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Posted by LSUDVM1999 on 2/4 at 8:22 pm to Tiger4Ever
In BR, you can contact the small animal clinic at the vet school. Tell them you want to talk to someone in the rehabilitation service: Small Animal Clinic: 225-578-9600

I will add that sometimes the vet schools can be a pain in the arse to talk with someone but because it's in your back yard, it's worth doing. There are more options over by NO in the suburbs. I'll paste two links for you if you want to explore these options:

LINK

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Posted by Tiger4Ever on 2/5 at 8:15 am to LSUDVM1999
Well...she had a good pain free night, but she doesn't seem to have sensation or movement in/of her back legs.

The pain medication, anti-inflammatory and tranquilizer seem to have her content though.



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