Mikulski’s ‘Paycheck Fairness Act’ Would Allow Employees to Discuss Salaries
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Mikulski’s ‘Paycheck Fairness Act’ Would Allow Employees to Discuss Salaries
Posted by wickowick on 1/31 at 2:05 pm
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LANHAM, Md. (CBSDC)- A ‘Paycheck Fairness Act’ introduced in Congress last week would require employers to show pay disparity is related to job-performance and prohibit employer retaliation for sharing salary information with coworkers.

Senator Barbara A. Mikulski and Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro, both Democrats, said their legislation is aimed at closing the pay gap between men and women and would also address loopholes in the 1963 Equal Pay Act.



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Posted by accnodefense on 1/31 at 2:06 pm to wickowick
Exhibit A should be the Obama Administration


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Posted by C on 1/31 at 2:09 pm to wickowick
I don't want a single person to know how much I make.

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prohibit employer retaliation for sharing salary information with coworkers.


I've never heard of a company disciplining someone who told another co-worker his/her salary. Can i get a link to this being an issue?



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Posted by Catman88 on 1/31 at 2:10 pm to wickowick
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show pay disparity is related to job-performance


Pay disparity is hardly EVER related to performance nor should it!

Its based on many factors such as experience, when you were hired, your education and ability to negotiate.

In the last 7 years every raise I have had had zero to do with my performance review and more to do with the company's need to keep me and the cost to replace me.



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Posted by Powerman on 1/31 at 2:11 pm to wickowick
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Democrats, said their legislation is aimed at closing the pay gap between men and women and would also address loopholes in the 1963 Equal Pay Act.

When men and women do the same jobs this will be a valid point



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Posted by Powerman on 1/31 at 2:12 pm to Catman88
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Pay disparity is hardly EVER related to performance nor should it!



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Posted by bunky on 1/31 at 2:19 pm to wickowick
Next up they're going to say I'm only allowed to own one company.


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Posted by klrstix on 1/31 at 3:02 pm to C
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I've never heard of a company disciplining someone who told another co-worker his/her salary. Can i get a link to this being an issue?



Our company policy specifically states any disclosure of your compensation to any employee (currently or previously employed) other than those designated to discuss your compensation is a violation of your confidentiality/nondisclosure agreement and is grounds for dismissal.



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Posted by constant cough on 1/31 at 3:12 pm to wickowick
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Mikulski and DeLauro said the Paycheck Fairness Act would also allow women to seek punitive damages for pay discrimination, establish a grant program to strengthen salary negotiation and other workplace skills and require the Department of Labor to enhance outreach and training efforts to eliminate pay disparities.



Yeah that's what we need more lawsuits and government grants...



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Posted by Catman88 on 1/31 at 4:19 pm to Powerman
What is confusing about that?

Q: What is the only time at a job where you can really get a serious pay boost?

A: When you switch positions.

Outside of that its all about small raises.

If person A is hired at 100k because of their education, experience and promise.

Person B is hired at 55k as an entry level position in the same area.

5 years down the line person B could easily be outperforming person A. However as most companies do it you simply get a 3% raise each year. Person A is going to still be making an assload more regardless of performance on the job.

If person B wants to make that money he needs to find another job not wait around for equal treatment. Thats just the way it is. Has nothing to do with anyone being discriminated against.



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Posted by Radiojones on 1/31 at 4:35 pm to wickowick
This is just silly and luckily has no chance of passing. The statists have lost their collective minds.


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Posted by CajunAngele on 1/31 at 6:32 pm to C
I have heard of the boss saying no one is to see anyones paychecks. No one can take someone their paycheck (paystub if DD) It ticks off the boss.

I have seen people realize that a secretary/admin makes more money than they (the company breadwinner) do, and complain and get a pay-cut or their job made so miserable they leave.

There are also rules from the dept of labor that if a persons rate of pay is decreased -for any reason- they must be notified in writing and employee and the boss must sign a paper. This law is broken every day. Not every company has a team of 100 in human resources all politically correct.


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Posted by Friscodog on 1/31 at 8:23 pm to Catman88
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Pay disparity is hardly EVER related to performance nor should it!


Bonus and merit increases ABSOLUTELY are a result of performance throughout the year. I am a manager and that is exactly how we administer bonuses and raises. If you excel, you get more than if you just "do your job" and meet expectations.



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Posted by Powerman on 1/31 at 8:30 pm to Catman88
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What is confusing about that?

Q: What is the only time at a job where you can really get a serious pay boost?

A: When you switch positions.

Outside of that its all about small raises.

Right. But performing well will allow you to switch positions.




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Posted by dominustd on 1/31 at 8:34 pm to Catman88
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What is confusing about that?

Q: What is the only time at a job where you can really get a serious pay boost?

A: When you switch positions.

Outside of that its all about small raises.

If person A is hired at 100k because of their education, experience and promise.

Person B is hired at 55k as an entry level position in the same area.


I'll play. I was Person B, yet the pay disparity was 30K difference and we started at the same time.

Person A was a dumbass and loved to leave his paychecks onscreen on his pc right next to mine.

Yeah, I was pissed, but he HAD more experience and a better background. OK.

After 3 years, my pay skyrocketed due to performance. Yep it went up 30K in 3 years and Person A was moved out of his position into another one. His pay maybe went up 3% per yr, yet I was close to his pay, but I was the one in line for a promotion, not him.

He left the company after 5 years. Performance pays.



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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 1/31 at 8:37 pm to Powerman
Here's another potential issue with this proposal: Sometimes the position is advertised at a certain salary and the company has no idea who will ultimately fill the position. My duties recently changed, and I have no idea if my replacement makes more, less, or the same as I did...but that cost would necessarily have been budgeted before any resumes were received.

Of course, the people making this proposal have never had a real job so they don't understand it.



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Posted by Jake88 on 1/31 at 8:46 pm to wickowick
If companies whose goal is to make a profit could actually pay equally qualified women less for the same job, why aren't their executive staffs disproportionately made up of women?


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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 1/31 at 8:51 pm to Jake88
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If companies whose goal is to make a profit could actually pay equally qualified women less for the same job, why aren't their executive staffs disproportionately made up of women?


Well, in fairness Fortune 500 companies could save massive amounts of money by outsourcing the executive positions to Japan and they don't do it.



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Posted by dominustd on 1/31 at 8:54 pm to Jake88
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If companies whose goal is to make a profit could actually pay equally qualified women less for the same job, why aren't their executive staffs disproportionately made up of women?


:mindblowngif:

Of course, the real answer is men are a bunch of chauvinists, keeping womens down, man!



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Posted by Godfather1 on 1/31 at 8:54 pm to C
I don't want a single person to know how much I make.

This. That's between me and my department head, and nobody else.

I also have no interest in knowing what my coworkers make. None of my business.



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