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Posted by TigerPride10 on 2/3 at 8:59 am to Lsupimp
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So this thread is about ISRAEL, huh ?
I better look into this immediately...


That's right. Keep your blinders on and just do what your evangelical pastor tells you.



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Posted by MrCarton on 2/3 at 9:03 am to TigerPride10
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If they continue to marginalize themselves in international affairs by oppressing the Palestinians, they will pay for it. Not through war, but they will certainly become a pariah state in international affairs. The only reason why they aren't as of now is because of the diplomatic clout of the US.



I would love to see some of this but I don't believe enough people are willing to buck the Jewish stranglehold of media and politics.



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Posted by TigerPride10 on 2/3 at 9:10 am to MrCarton
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I would love to see some of this but I don't believe enough people are willing to buck the Jewish stranglehold of media and politics.


The easiest thing to do would be to stand aside and not try to block international law in Israel's favor. There has been talk about Palestine bringing up various issues with various international courts. We should let the judicial process play out as it was designed.

From there, we can talk about not fighting their wars or single-handedly paying for their military.


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Posted by TigerPride10 on 2/3 at 9:17 am to TigerPride10
The biggest issue that I have with our propping up of Israel at the expense of the Palestinians is that our interests are not strategic. The difference between our strategic gains by backing Israel instead of Palestine might as well be insignificant. There are many nations in the Near East that are more important to our interests.

I'm not big on getting involved with the internal affairs of other states. With that said, if our only interest in Israel is a Wilsonian one, then we should allow Palestine the right to self-determination just like we do with the Israelis or any other state.



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Posted by MrCarton on 2/3 at 9:25 am to TigerPride10
You running for office? I'll put a vote to your name.


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Posted by Lsupimp on 2/3 at 9:29 am to TigerPride10
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do what your evangelical pastor tells you

evangelical ?
me ?



Would the last anti-Israel zealot on this board who doesn't traffic 100% in lazy, unimaginative cliches, please turn out the lights. And make sure to leave Carrollton some water before you leave.



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Posted by CarrolltonTiger on 2/3 at 9:50 am to Lsupimp
Interesting comment coming from a guy who offers nothing to the discussion but emoticons, and trite remarks about other posters,




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Posted by Porky on 2/3 at 10:14 am to TigerPride10
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I'm not big on getting involved with the internal affairs of other states. With that said, if our only interest in Israel is a Wilsonian one, then we should allow Palestine the right to self-determination just like we do with the Israelis or any other state.

IMO, We would perhaps be a much stronger country internally and in regard to our foreign relations if we did adhere more to the Wilsonian philosophy/strategy.

I'm afraid it's more about the "dollar", and specifically, where it's channeled within our political system, not with the intention of strengthening our economy or any positive long term strategies for that matter.

Nonetheless, I believe the Palestinians should have the opportunity.


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Posted by davesdawgs on 2/3 at 10:25 am to AngryBeavers
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It's funny when the UN thinks have any power...



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Posted by TigerPride10 on 2/3 at 10:30 am to Porky
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IMO, We would perhaps be a much stronger country internally and in regard to our foreign relations if we did adhere more to the Wilsonian philosophy/strategy.


It would be great if the world worked like that, but unfortunately, it doesn't. The times when the great powers have relied too heavily on an idealist approach to foreign affairs, they have been burned.



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Posted by trackfan on 2/3 at 10:44 am to TigerPride10
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It's loosely equivalent to the problem that China faces in propping up North Korea.

Good analogy.



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Posted by trackfan on 2/3 at 10:48 am to TigerPride10
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The easiest thing to do would be to stand aside and not try to block international law in Israel's favor. There has been talk about Palestine bringing up various issues with various international courts. We should let the judicial process play out as it was designed.

There have been hints that Netanyahu's latest shenanigans might have been the final straw for Obama and he may abstain the next time Israel is on the UN's docket.



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Posted by Lsupimp on 2/3 at 10:48 am to CarrolltonTiger
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who offers nothing to the discussion but emoticons, and trite remarks about other posters,


Let's keep things factual, Gramps.
It is all I can do to muster a simple yawn at your continued manic AGITPROP against Israel.
I give you the emoticons as a simple courtesy.
It AMUSES me to see the Israel Bogeyman so overtake you.
Israel is your Daddy, it's free, prosperous citizens have free rent inside your head-24/7.
I sure hope they are grateful.




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