Israel must withdraw all settlers from West Bank
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Posted by blueboy on 2/2 at 5:57 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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So you're saying we should've made West Germany and Japan the 51st and 52nd States?

in 1945, they would have been the 49th and 50th states.


just sayin'



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Posted by ljhog on 2/2 at 7:26 pm to NimbleCat
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The Zionists will destroy all sons of Muhammad and feast on the blood of the False Prophet.




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Posted by SM6 on 2/2 at 8:15 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987


Lolno. The Israelis were given that land in 45 by Britain because they couldn't find a place to put the concentration camp survives after their properties were confiscated by neighbors. The zionists pushed for Palestine and because Britain was broke the opted for self rule vice a commonwealth protectorate.

While the Israelis absolutely have a right to self determination, if they continue to treat Palestinians as they do, they have no more right to call themselves a 'democracy' than Myanmar. International law CLEARLY rebuts the settlement movement.


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Posted by SM6 on 2/2 at 8:18 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Jeauxbleaux.

In your opinion, why should the average Palestinian give 2cents to netanyahu's war mongering stance? I'm not talking about Lebanon Syria or Egypt who are know NATIONAL aggressors. Why does Israel have a right to govern the same people they deem subhuman. Even the Israeli parliment tried to remove an Arab mp when she spoke out against settlements.


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Posted by Rex on 2/2 at 8:19 pm to CarrolltonTiger
Those Zionist frickers besmirch the memory of Holocaust victims.


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Posted by MrCarton on 2/2 at 8:21 pm to SM6
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The Israelis were given that land in 45 by Britain because they couldn't find a place to put the concentration camp survives after their properties were confiscated by neighbors.


Israel was in the works well prior to any concentration camps.

Do you think that only Jews were displaced after wwII?




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Posted by SM6 on 2/2 at 8:25 pm to MrCarton
No the Zionist movement was well in effect and by 45 there were plenty in place, the Arabs sold a lot of land to them, but that doesn't excuse Israel's treatment of their non Jew constituency, unless of course they want to consider themselves a Jewish fundamentalist society, which in that case, have at it.


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Posted by BamaChick on 2/2 at 8:31 pm to wmr
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Notice that American leftist Jews like Bill Maher


Bill Maher was raised Catholic.

And he isn't atheist - he has a problem with organized religion, not faith.



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Posted by blueboy on 2/2 at 9:01 pm to BamaChick
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And he isn't atheist - he has a problem with organized religion, not faith.

Maher has repeatedly described himself as an atheist.



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Posted by trackfan on 2/2 at 9:01 pm to BamaChick
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Bill Maher was raised Catholic.

And he isn't atheist - he has a problem with organized religion, not faith.

His Dad was Catholic, but his Mom is Jewish and indoctrinated him with her Likudnik beliefs.



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Posted by BamaChick on 2/2 at 10:07 pm to trackfan
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MAHER: Well, you know, I was raised Catholic, Larry.

KING: Catholic and Jewish, right?

MAHER: Well, I wasn't raised Jewish. My mother is Jewish. But I never even knew I was half-Jewish until I was a teen-ager. I was just so frightened about the Catholics and everything that was going on there in the church -- and I was never, you know, molested or anything. And I'm a little insulted. I guess they never found me attractive. And that's really their loss.
LINK

Hard to be "indoctrinated" in something you didn't even know existed.

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"Is there a God?"

Bill Maher: I think there is. We did a show last night about God and religion with Dave Foley, who I love, and we were arguing against this one woman who had a book called I Like Being Catholic. Someone said, "Oh, boy, a lot of atheists on this panel." I said, "I'm not an atheist. There's a really big difference between an atheist and someone who just doesn't believe in religion. Religion to me is a bureaucracy between man and God that I don't need. But I'm not an atheist, no." I believe there's some force. If you want to call it God... I don't believe God is a single parent who writes books. I think that the people who think God wrote a book called The Bible are just childish. Religion is so childish. What they're fighting about in the Middle East, it's so childish. These myths, these silly little stories that they believe in fundamentally, that they take over this little space in Jerusalem where one guy flew up to heaven—no, no, this guy performed a sacrifice here a thousand million years ago. It's like, "Who cares? What does that have to do with spirituality, where you're really trying to get, as a human being and as a soul moving in the universe?" But I do believe in a God, yes.
LINK

Doesn't sound like someone who identifies as atheist.



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Posted by CarrolltonTiger on 2/2 at 10:13 pm to BamaChick
Your links were interesting, but I doubt Trackfan thinks or was suggesting Likudnik beliefs are religious based.


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Posted by trackfan on 2/2 at 10:14 pm to BamaChick
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Hard to be "indoctrinated" in something you didn't even know existed.

That exchange doesn't mention anything about what his mother may or may not have said about Israel. Furthermore, Evangelican Christians have taught us that it's not even necessary to be Jewish to also be a fanatical Likudnik supporter.



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Posted by Porky on 2/2 at 10:31 pm to trackfan
I have never understood the reason many fundamentalist Christians think they're obligated to support Israel. I have nothing against Israel or some Americans' blind allegiance to Israel. I just don't understand it. It makes absolutely no sense to me. And that's alright.

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Posted by trackfan on 2/2 at 10:48 pm to Porky
Bill Maher vs EX-CIA Officer on Israel

Words of Wisdom from Michael Scheuer



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Posted by Porky on 2/2 at 10:53 pm to trackfan
I applaud Bill Maher for having Scheuer on his program. I read Michael Scheuer's book, "Marching Toward Hell". He's a very knowledgeable man, especially re: Al Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden, and our completely screwed up foreign policy in the Middle East. Scheuer is a man who actually makes sense.

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Posted by CtotheVrzrbck on 2/3 at 8:45 am to trackfan
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Would you really be willing to pay higher taxes to make reparations to Native Americans?


we gave them drunk bitches casinos, I'd say they owe us reparations.



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Posted by CITWTT on 2/3 at 8:49 am to CarrolltonTiger
Exactly who is going to enforce this dedcision? Note to Palestinians and every nation that got them out of the region in 1948(no Arab nation considers them as citiens 60 plus years later) next time win the war and you too can make the laws


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Posted by Lsupimp on 2/3 at 8:57 am to CarrolltonTiger
So this thread is about ISRAEL, huh ?
I better look into this immediately...



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Posted by TigerPride10 on 2/3 at 8:57 am to CITWTT
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Exactly who is going to enforce this dedcision?


If they continue to marginalize themselves in international affairs by oppressing the Palestinians, they will pay for it. Not through war, but they will certainly become a pariah state in international affairs. The only reason why they aren't as of now is because of the diplomatic clout of the US.

The more of a pain in the arse they become, the less able and willing we are to protect them. It's loosely equivalent to the problem that China faces in propping up North Korea.



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