As Good as our Talent is, How has our Offense Been So Bad?
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As Good as our Talent is, How has our Offense Been So Bad?
Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger on 1/16 at 8:54 pm
With Big Names Year in and Year Out, with multiple coaching changes including hires such as Kragthorpe and Ensminger?, and with a D that sets them up, it almost defies logic that our offense is as bad as it is!
Shouldn't we at least rank in the top 50?

If this changes, we can be back on top.




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Posted by cas4t on 1/16 at 8:55 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
It will change next year

I BELIEVE



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Posted by SCRATCH MY GOAT on 1/16 at 8:55 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Well here's an original thread


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Posted by mach316 on 1/16 at 8:56 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger



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Posted by crankbait on 1/16 at 8:56 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Johnny obryant just throws up shots and stringer gets cold a lot


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Posted by lsuexpert57 on 1/16 at 8:57 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Short answer? Bad QB play.


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Posted by BeeFense5 on 1/16 at 8:57 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Exactly how good is the talent? Give us a breakdown.


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Posted by Tha Truth on 1/16 at 9:07 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
I blame Ryan Perriloux


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Posted by omegaman66 on 1/16 at 9:08 pm to BeeFense5
Bad WR play much of the year. Average line due to injuries. QB not able to cope with the crappy play around him. Blitz pickup by the rb/fb subpar. That is why we were not better.

I expect the infusion of WR's to help with that and the ones we played last year did improve towards the end of the year.

Lets hope that our line can give Mett a bigger pocket to stand in next year. Do those two things and we will have an offense that breaks into the top 35.



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Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger on 1/16 at 9:09 pm to BeeFense5
OK, breakdown, at skill positions:

Ridley, Hester, Lafell, Flynn, Tolliver, Ford, Mett, Hill, Randle, J. Landry, Early, Hilliard, Blue, D. Byrd, Holliday, Charles Scott

Including punt and /or KO return:
Claiborne, Peterson, and Matthieu, and the speedster DB from Texas

Most, if not all of these guys, either do, did, or will play on Sundays. Not just any team has boatloads of 4 stars with sprinkled in 5 star talent on a routine basis.


This post was edited on 1/16 at 9:11 pm

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Posted by dgnx6 on 1/16 at 9:35 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Your naming players that played on some of the best offenses lsu has ever had.

I'm still trying to figure out how Saban and jimbo fielded offenses worse than miles and crowton. Still blows my mind you have no one better than Marcus Randall, oh wait he rode the bench and eventually became the #1 pick in the draft.



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Posted by Random LSU Hero on 1/16 at 9:36 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
quote:

As Good as our Talent is, How has our Offense Been So Bad?


Ground

Breaking

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Posted by Rickdaddy4188 on 1/16 at 9:37 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Regardless what dumbass rantards say, our 2011 offense was good. The only team to stop us was UGA( FOR ONE HALF) and the best BAMA DEF OF ALLTIME.


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Posted by Rickdaddy4188 on 1/16 at 9:38 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
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OK, breakdown, at skill positions: Ridley, Hester, Lafell, Flynn, Tolliver, Ford, Mett, Hill, Randle, J. Landry, Early, Hilliard, Blue, D. Byrd, Holliday, Charles Scott Including punt and /or KO return: Claiborne, Peterson, and Matthieu, and the speedster DB from Texas Most, if not all of these guys, either do, did, or will play on Sundays. Not just any team has boatloads of 4 stars with sprinkled in 5 star talent on a routine basis.



YOU'RE RIGHT. WHICH IS WHY 4 of the TOP 5 LSU OFFENSES , EVER , ARE MILES COACHED TEAMS.



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Posted by tenderfoot tigah on 1/16 at 9:59 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Those offenses were Jimbo Fischer coached offenses.

Once his players left the offense sucked dick the next 5 years.



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Posted by Rickdaddy4188 on 1/16 at 10:02 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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Those offenses were Jimbo Fischer coached offenses. Once his players left the offense sucked dick the next 5 years.



What? So when the offense is good, Miles has shite to do with it. When they suck, it's all miles. Good god you people don't deserve a top 10 program.



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Posted by Rickdaddy4188 on 1/16 at 10:04 pm to tenderfoot tigah
If you think our 2011 offense sucked,you don't know shite about football. Period. The only team to stop us was the best Bama def of all time. Get a clue.


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Posted by dgnx6 on 1/16 at 10:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
They never will.

I m still trying to pound the fact that 02 and 04 were statistically worse than 09 and 10. Diff hc and diff oc, same problem. Shitty qb play.



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Posted by KnoxvilleBerryTiger on 1/17 at 7:33 pm to dgnx6
I am not saying this thread is original. Never did, as I am on this board much less than I used to be. Also, not saying or 2007 offense was not good.

I mentioned players from that year to show that we have had a continuous pipeline of offensive talent since that time. Our offense was quite good then.

Here's how I recall recent seasons, with the painful regression.
2008, ptitful, blame it on Perriloux leaving. 2009, I do not specifically recall
2010 bottom of the barrel statisitically, enter Kragthorpe and J. Lee as the QB in charge.
2011 great record, great momentum with J Lee, then we run out of gas when it mattered. Statistically, I recall an underwhelming finish again.
2012--Mett, it's gonna be top notch now. And we can't complete routine passes or get 3rd downs. I love my Tigers, but this year, injuries and all, was statistically also not very good.

My simple question remains, why does this persist?

I will no longer perceive a good spring performance or new hire as a predictor of offensive prowess for the upcoming season. At some point it needs to bee evident on the field in season play. I don't recall such an offense since 2007. Meanwhile other big programs are walking highlight reels.

With Rettig and Johnson now on board, we continue to have the talent. The other ingredients remain to be seen.




This post was edited on 1/17 at 7:36 pm

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Posted by Rickdaddy4188 on 1/17 at 7:38 pm to KnoxvilleBerryTiger
Our 2008 offense wasn't horrible. Our def was.


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