Preparedness planning for a home invasion
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Posted by bapple on 1/14 at 1:04 pm to choupiquesushi
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the two times where I have had to fetch and load, have gone off without a hitch, and had I so desired


I'm not preaching that everyone who has an unloaded gun is an idiot. It just increases your chances for failure, that's all. If you feel more comfortable with no chambered round, then go for it. I prefer not to take my chances and have chosen to keep one chambered.

It's also good to identify your potential target before putting the sights on target. Not saying you were planning on shooting your friend or the airline guy, but just hoping you kept this in consideration.


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Posted by fishfighter on 1/14 at 1:05 pm to RATeamWannabe
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I get mag extensions for it.


Have one on a 1100.



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Posted by Ace Midnight on 1/14 at 2:39 pm to bapple
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Think about it - short-stroking ( ) is one of the most common failures out there. The only time this wouldn't be an issue is with a weapon whose action opens fully, like a revolver or break-action shotgun. Your semi autos, pump shotguns, lever rifles, and bolt action rifles can all suffer from short stroking.


I pretty much just laughed the whole way through this paragraph...twice.


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Posted by AlxTgr on 1/14 at 2:43 pm to kywildcatfanone
My guns/ammo are not even on the same floor as where we live.


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Posted by HeadSlash on 1/14 at 3:12 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Do you keep your home defense weapon or weapons fully loaded with a chambered round and safety off, or do you keep the magazine separate from the gun and have to get them together quickly or something entirely different?


I load the first round with a blank just in case.
Something different? How about 70 lbs of pure muscle? My dog still barks at my kids when they come home.



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Posted by choupiquesushi on 1/14 at 4:07 pm to bapple
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It's also good to identify your potential target before putting the sights on target. Not saying you were planning on shooting your friend or the airline guy, but just hoping you kept this in consideration.


I'll put it like this and leave it be, If you are good guy stumbling into my abode - I am probably your best case scenario. If you are a bad guy stumbling into my abode... i am very likely one of the worst case scenarios. I can load just about every weapon I have handled under just about any circumstances and or situations... the one thing about my chosen 3 for home defense is they can be loaded quietly..



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Posted by TigerOnThe Hill on 1/14 at 4:55 pm to 007mag
007,
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One handgun, it's a revolver in holster in nightstand hammer on empty cylinder.

W/ modern revolvers, there's no need to have an empty chamber under the hammer. It doesn't enhance safety. It DOES decrease your available rounds by one.



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Posted by TigerOnThe Hill on 1/14 at 5:00 pm to CajunFootball
CJ,
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Besides...if I put a drum on it I'm sure she'll have it hit something.

Yeah, she prolly will hit something......that is, unless, the magazine jams. Having lots of available ammo is a good idea, but be sure the drum mag is reliable; most drum mags don't feed reliably. If you're already satisfied w/ it's reliability, then great; if not, test fire it extensively until you are satisfied.



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Posted by Carson123987 on 1/14 at 5:01 pm to kywildcatfanone
single

P30 in .40 cocked and locked on desk

ETA: But I'm just using P30 until I can reach my AR15 on the other side of the room


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Posted by AlxTgr on 1/14 at 5:05 pm to Carson123987
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until I can reach my AR15 on the other side of the room
Wow, an OB poster who has not tragically lost his AR. I commend you for not being as clumsy as these fools



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Posted by Carson123987 on 1/14 at 5:29 pm to AlxTgr



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Posted by dawg23 on 1/14 at 5:51 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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W/ modern revolvers, there's no need to have an empty chamber under the hammer. It doesn't enhance safety. It DOES decrease your available rounds by one.


1. This ^^^^^ = true.

To the OP(KYFAN):

2. The posts suggesting "safety on" and/or "empty chamber" are .......................................................................................... misguided. That's as PC as I can be.

3. I would suggest taking a serious look at some "immersion level" training. Check around in your area (defined as 200 mile radius) for a good two-day or three-day class on how to defend yourself with a handgun or shotgun. Most schools will explain that this is different from just "shooting" a gun.

4. If you need a gun, you're gonna really need one. This would suggest that you're really gonna need to be able to operate it under extreme stress.

5. Even with no kids at home, the guns need to be secure (don't want to get shot by the home invaders now, do we ?). But I doubt that many (if any) self-defense training academies will recommend an unloaded gun (empty chamber). And unless you are really proficient with the full range of your arsenal, forgetting to "unsafe" the gun is a real possibility -- especially under stress if you've mixed different handgun platforms in your arsenal.

6. If you're not really proficient, see #1 above.



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Posted by choupiquesushi on 1/14 at 5:57 pm to dawg23
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And unless you are really proficient with the full range of your arsenal, forgetting to "unsafe" the gun is a real possibility


well said.. how many times have we been in a duck blind and a guy couldn't get a shotgun off safety?

and approaching grave danger with a weapon unsafe.... could lead to your early expiration....



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Posted by AlxTgr on 1/14 at 6:08 pm to choupiquesushi
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how many times have we been in a duck blind and a guy couldn't get a shotgun off safety?
Zero



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Posted by highcotton2 on 1/14 at 6:08 pm to bapple
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It's also good to identify your potential target before putting the sights on target


There was a guy from my town a few years ago that had been out drinking one night and when he went home he had lost his keys. He tried climbing through a window and his roommate shot him dead. Tragic accident



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Posted by choupiquesushi on 1/14 at 6:15 pm to AlxTgr
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how many times have we been in a duck blind and a guy couldn't get a shotgun off safety?
Zero


heck when i guided hunts this was a once a day or more occurance.



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Posted by AlxTgr on 1/14 at 6:55 pm to choupiquesushi
I've never hunted with sports.


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Posted by Reubaltaich on 1/14 at 6:59 pm to choupiquesushi
Something not mentioned is secure doors and windows.

Around 2/3rd of all home breakins are through the door. The rest are through windows(I know, Captain Obvious ) Maybe through a wall once in a blue moon.

Get your doors secured. The weakest point of a door is the frame. Get something like a EZ Armour door jamb kit from Lowes about $70.

Get a door and lock reinforcement kit, $30.
Get some 3" or 4" wood screws for the door hinges(about .50 each)

Get a latch shield, $8

Get a security door brace from Lowes about $20

Get a few 'Beware of Dog' signs, $2 each.

Find you some of those 'Home protected by XYZ Security systems' signs.

Get some of those electronic 'screechers' that emit a loud, ear piercing sound when a door or window is opened. That sound alone will send a thug running. About $20 for a pair.

Get some of those sticky bushes planted around you windows.

Get motion-lights installed. Not overly expensive as you would think.

Get a good yapping dog. Don't get one like I have which will bark at a cricket.

Most theives are pretty dumb and are looking for a quick, easy hit.

There are the 'professional' thiefs that are pretty sophisicated but the harder it is to get in your home, they just may decide to pass on your home.



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Posted by hashbrowns on 1/14 at 7:11 pm to AlxTgr
The only reason carson hasn't lost his in a boating accident is that he's trying to sell it


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Posted by highcotton2 on 1/14 at 7:11 pm to Reubaltaich
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Get something like a EZ Armour door jamb kit from Lowes about $70.


My house was broken into during the summer but thankfully the wife and kids were not home. They kicked the backdoor in and the deadbolt just pushed right through the frame. The responding officer told me he went to an attempted break-in where the intruder tried to kick in a door with a EZ Armour door jamb and all he did was leave a muddy boot print on the door.



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