Election Day Rumor that needs to die, Voter ID Laws
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Election Day Rumor that needs to die, Voter ID Laws
Posted by carbola on 1/12 at 1:11 pm
I have heard this time and time again:
quote:

Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote.


It is just not true

States that Romney won that do not require ID:

North Carolina - Strict photo ID legislation was passed by the legislature in 2011, but vetoed by the governor. The legislature may try to override the veto in 2012. It has not passed as of 09-Jan-2013

Mississippi - In November 2011, Mississippi votes approved a constitutional amendment imposing strict voter ID requirements. This law was put on hold until after the 2012 election

Nebraska - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 but not enacted. Was not voted on in 2012 either

West Virginia - Voter ID was considered in 2011 and 2012, but not enacted.

Wyoming - ID laws are only up to HAVA standards



States that Romney won that require ID, but not photo ID:

Utah - Non-Photo ID required. Need one of the following:
Current valid UT driver's license
Current valid identification card issued by the state or federal government
UT concealed weapon permit
U.S. passport
Current valid U.S. military ID card
Bureau of Indian Affairs card
Tribal treaty card
Tribal ID card
Two forms of ID that bear the name of the voter and provide evidence that the voter resides in the precinct

Oklahoma - Non-Photo ID required. Typically you must have a photo ID, but a voter registration card issued by the appropriate county elections board may serve as proof of identity without a photo ID.

Arkansas - Photo ID law was considered in 2011, but not enacted. Poll workers must ask, but only certain voters must show it. You will need one of the following:
Current and valid photo ID
Copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter

Alabama - Non-Photo ID Law in 2012, Photo ID law in 2014. For 2012 you needed one of the following:
Government-issued photo ID
U.S. passport
U.S. military ID
Employee ID card with photo
Alabama college/university ID with photo
Alabama hunting or fishing license
Alabama gun permit
FAA-issued pilot's license
Birth certificate (certified copy)
Social security card
Naturalization document
Court record of adoption or name change
Medicaid or Medicare card
Electronic benefits transfer card
Utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or government document showing name and address of voter

Kentucky - Non-Photo ID Law. You will need one of the following:
Driver’s license
Social Security card
Credit card

North Dakota - Non-Photo ID law. You will need one of the following:
Valid driver's license or state ID card
Valid passport or federal agency ID card
Valid government-issued tribal ID card
Valid student ID card
Valid U.S. military ID card
Utility bill dated 30 days prior to election day with name and residential address
Change of address verification letter from U.S. Postal Service

Texas - Texas passed a strict photo ID requirement in 2011. The federal court vetoed it. You will need at least one of the following:
Driver’s license
Department of Public Safety ID card
A form of ID containing the person’s photo that establishes the person’s identity
A birth certificate or other document confirming birth that is admissible in a court of law and establishes the person’s identity
U.S. citizenship papers
A U.S. passport
Official mail addressed to the person, by name, from a governmental entity
A copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the person’s name and address
Any other form of ID prescribed by the secretary of state

Montana - A strict photo ID bill was passed in 2011, but vetoed by the governor. You will need one of the following:
Driver’s license
School district or postsecondary education photo identification
Tribal photo identification
Current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, notice of confirmation of voter registration, government check, or other government document that shows the elector's name and current address

Alaska - Non-Photo ID required. Need one of the following:
Official voter registration card
Driver's license
Birth certificate
Passport
Hunting or fishing license
Current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, government check or other government document with the voter’s name and address

South Carolina - Non-Photo ID required. Current ID law and 2013 ID law
Existing law:
Voter registration certificate
South Carolina driver’s license
South Carolina Dept. of Motor Vehicles photo ID card

New law (effective in 2013):
South Carolina driver's license
Other form of photo ID issued by the SC Dept. of Motor Vehicles
Passport
Military ID bearing a photo issued by the federal government
South Carolina voter registration card with a photo

Missouri- Non-Photo ID required, need one of the following:
Identification issued by the federal government, state of Missouri, an agency of the state, or a local election authority;
Identification issued by Missouri institution of higher education, including a university, college, vocational and technical school;
A copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, government check or other government document that contains the name and address of the voter;
Driver's license or state identification card issued by another state.

Arizona - Non-Photo ID required, need one of the following:
Valid Arizona driver's license
Valid Arizona non-driver identification
Tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification
Valid U.S. federal, state or local government issued identification
Utility bill dated within 90 days of the election
Bank or credit union statement dated within 90 days of the election
Valid Arizona vehicle registration
Indian census card
Property tax statement
Vehicle insurance card
Recorder’s Certificate



States Romney won that require photo ID:
Georgia
Indiana
Louisiana
South Dakota
Tennessee
Kansas
Idaho



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Posted by carbola on 1/12 at 1:12 pm to carbola
Conversely for Obama:
States that Obama won that do not require ID:

Vermont - Only first time voters who registered by mail need show ID.

New York - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012 but not enacted.

Maryland - Voter ID legislation was considered but not in enacted in 2011 and 2012. Typically met during registration which must include DL number or SSN. However, you must present ID if you registered by mail after 1-Jan-2006 or did not have a DL or SSN or if it is your first time to vote in Maryland.

California - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 but not enacted. Under both federal law and state law, voters must provide their driver’s license number if they have a valid and current driver’s
license or the number provided on a California state identification card issued by the
Department of Motor Vehicles. If they do not, they are required to provide the last four
digits of their social security number. If they do not have a driver’s license number,
state identification number or social security number, the state will assign them a unique
number, which will be their identifier for purposes of voter registration. One election day, one must "Provide satisfactory proof" of identification. So technically, no ID required.

Massachusetts - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and carried over into the 2012 legislative session. First time voters who registered by mail since 2003 and anyone on the list of "inactive" voters must still present ID.

New Jersey - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012, but not enacted. If you registered after 2003 and this is your first time voting and/or never voted in a federal election you must present ID

Illinois - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012. ID required if it is your first time voting and you registered by mail after 2003.

Maine - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and carried over into the 2012 legislative session. No ID needed

Oregon - All election are done by mail. If you do not provide ID when registering you cannot vote in Federal Elections, only local.

New Mexico - Voter Id legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012, but not enacted. Only first time voters who registered by mail are required to show ID.

Minnesota - Voter ID legislation was passed by the legislature in 2011, but vetoed by the governor. Pending in 2012 as well. Outside of HAVA no ID needed.

Nevada - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 but not enacted. Signatures must much registration otherwise, ID needed.

Wisconsin - Strict photo ID law was passed in 2011, but it was held unconstitutional bya state judge on March 12, 2012. It is possible this will be overturned, but case has not currently been heard. In such, for 6-Nov-2012 elections No ID was required

Iowa - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012. ID only needed if you register on election day or inactive voter.

States that Obama won that require ID, but not photo ID:

Ohio - Photo ID legislation was considered in 2012, but not enacted. One of the following is currently needed in in addition to announcing your full name and current address:
Current and valid photo identification, defined as a document that shows the individual’s name and current address, includes a photograph, includes an expiration date that has not passed, and was issued by the U.S. government or the state of Ohio
Current utility bill
Current bank statement
Current government check, paycheck or other government document

Virginia - Photo ID legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012 but not enacted.

Colorado - Photo ID legislation was considered in 2011 and 2012 but not enacted. One of the following is needed:
Colorado driver's license
CO Dept. of Revenue ID card
U.S. passport
Employee ID card with photo issued by the U.S. government, CO state government, or political subdivision of CO
Pilot’s license
U.S. military ID with photo
A copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the elector
Medicare or Medicaid card
Certified copy of birth certificate
Certified documentation of naturalization

Washington - All elections are done by mail. However the following are listed as valid IDs
Valid photo identification, such as a driver's license or state identification card, student identification card, or tribal identification card
A voter identification issued by a county elections officer, or
A copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck, or government check or other government document

Connecticut - Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 but not enacted. One of the following is needed:
Social security card
Any other preprinted form of identification which shows the elector's name and either the elector's address, signature or photograph

Delaware- Voter ID legislation was considered in 2011 and carried over into 2012. You need one of the following
Photo ID
Utility bill
Paycheck
Any government document with voter’s name and address

Rhode Island - Non-Photo ID law in 2012, Photo ID law in 2014. For 2012, identification is required at the polls. No eligible voter will be turned away at the polls. Voters who do not bring an acceptable ID to their polling place can vote using a standard Provisional Ballot. The ballot will be counted if the signature they give at their polling place matches the signature on their voter registration. Voter ID will be phased in over two election cycles. In 2012 and 2013, voters can also use a variety of non-photo IDs including a Social Security or Medicare card. Beginning in 2014, only Photo IDs will be accepted at the polls


District of Columbia - Need one of the following:
Copy of current and valid photo identification
Copy of a current utility bill (does not include cell phone)
Bank statement
Government check
Paycheck
Or other government document that shows your name and address



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Posted by carbola on 1/12 at 1:12 pm to carbola
States Obama won that require photo ID:

Hawaii - Required if Poll Worker asks for it or you registered by mail. Must have photo and signature. Bank statements and utility bills are also acceptable in addition to photo ID.

Michigan - You can only vote with a photo ID or affidavit

New Hampshire - Overrode governors veto of ID law. You can vote so long as you have ID or sign an affidavit.

Pennsylvania - After working it's way through the courts, a photo ID must be presented to vote. At lest that is what I was able to gather from this PA Voter ID Law- General FAQ. It appears that you have to follow "first time voter" procedures if you did not have a photo ID though. FWIW, Pennsylvania was offering free IDs and people were still saying it was restrictive.

Florida - Stricter ID laws were considered in 2012 but not enacted. If you do not have a photo ID with signature you must present an ID that is signed. Otherwise you can only cast a provisional ballot.


TLDR: Pursuant to the federal "Help America Vote Act of 2002" (HAVA), if you registered to vote by mail in your county after January 1, 2003, and never voted in a federal election in the county, you were required to provide your county commissioner of registration with identification. This is a federal law.


ETA: These are the two primary links I used to put this together:
LINK 1
LINK 2


This post was edited on 1/12 at 1:14 pm

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Posted by ForeLSU on 1/12 at 1:14 pm to carbola
yea, but, but, but....


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Posted by LaBornNRaised on 1/12 at 4:25 pm to carbola
Would love for New York and California to implementvoter id laws.

It's fricking moronic that in this day and age that a citizen shouldn't have to show two forms of id to vote. Not even just one! I do not know one law abiding country loving citizen that has a problem with showing id considering how easy it is for thieves to steal identities these days.

Stupidity at its highest form.



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Posted by carbola on 1/12 at 4:43 pm to LaBornNRaised
quote:

Would love for New York and California to implementvoter id laws.


I agree that there should be Voter ID Laws in all states.

It still doesn't change the fact that Obama won some states that require IDs and Romney lost some that don't. Just get tired of hearing the same old BS bashing of Obama. I'm no fan of the man and there is plenty to complain about without making up stuff.



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Posted by brmark70816 on 1/12 at 8:51 pm to LaBornNRaised
Yeah, I don't get how people don't have to show some kind of i.d. Honestly, I never knew it was a thing until the 2008 election. I was always used to showing my license every time I vote. How do the people prove who they are? Every American should have some kind of picture i.d...


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Posted by RoJeaux on 1/12 at 9:00 pm to carbola
I don't know how they say that is the law in Florida because I have never once had to show ID to vote and have never seen them ask for it during an election from anyone at the two different polling places I have voted at.


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Posted by matthew25 on 1/13 at 12:29 am to RoJeaux
When I go to court and the Judge swears me in, I do not have to present any ID.


Haven't heard of any voter fraud after the recent election.



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Posted by Jimbeaux on 1/13 at 7:59 am to carbola
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carbola


I have honestly never heard anyone make the claim that you have suggested. It must be some fringe loons who are suggesting that. You have put forth a lot of effort to dispell a rumour which few are discussing or even believe. It's the type of false claim that's so easy to disprove that I would think even the most ardent anti-Obama types would hesitate to repeat it if they had more than two brain cells.



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Posted by carbola on 1/13 at 8:15 am to Jimbeaux
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umour which few are discussing or even believe.


I would like to agree, but this keeps getting brought up every now and again. It's a damn chain email that's been disproved time and time again and people keep bringing it up as fact.

Then you have people who said in that thread: The fact that Obama won in every state that does not require voter identification is telling

I just get tired of hearing it.



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Posted by Jimbeaux on 1/13 at 8:24 am to matthew25
quote:

When I go to court and the Judge swears me in, I do not have to present any ID.


And this is apropos of what?



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Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger on 1/13 at 12:01 pm to Jimbeaux
Why are the Democrats so opposed to voter ID? Most people already have a state ID so you really don't have any expense. I never understood why the Democrats oppose this so much, unless they know that a lot of democrats vote illegaly.


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