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Big Ten basketball is the real deal...
Posted by Govt Tide on 1/11 at 6:58 pm
As a big college hoops, I've been very impressed with how stout the league has been in recent years. It is easily the toughest and deepest league in basketball and is on its way to ruling basketball the way the SEC does football.


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Posted by bddwolfpack on 1/11 at 7:00 pm to Govt Tide
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It is easily the toughest and deepest league in basketball and is on its way to ruling basketball the way the SEC does football.

Next year's ACC shits on Big Ten.



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Posted by emoney on 1/11 at 7:04 pm to bddwolfpack
Has anyone seen Jeff Sagarin's latest rankings?

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1 BIG TEN = 83.59 83.36 ( 1) 12 83.44 ( 1)
2 MOUNTAIN WEST = 82.22 81.29 ( 3) 9 81.45 ( 3)
3 BIG EAST = 81.90 82.53 ( 2) 15 82.41 ( 2)
4 BIG 12 = 81.17 80.51 ( 6) 10 80.73 ( 6)
5 PAC-12 = 80.75 81.00 ( 5) 12 80.96 ( 4)
6 ATLANTIC COAST = 80.39 81.05 ( 4) 12 80.75 ( 5) 7 SOUTHEASTERN = 78.53 78.84 ( 7) 14 78.71 ( 7)
8 ATLANTIC 10 = 78.10 77.91 ( 8) 16 77.93 ( 8)
9 MISSOURI VALLEY = 76.91 77.29 ( 9) 10 77.12 ( 9) 10 WEST COAST = 76.02 76.69 ( 10) 9 76.49 ( 10)
11 HORIZON = 74.03 73.53 ( 12) 9 73.68 ( 12) 12 CONFERENCE USA = 73.85 73.67 ( 11)
12 73.85 ( 11)
13 WESTERN ATHLETIC = 73.20 72.92 ( 13) 10 72.97 ( 13)
14 BIG WEST = 71.87 71.47 ( 14) 10 71.65 ( 14)
15 METRO ATLANTIC = 71.63 71.36 ( 16) 10 71.41 ( 15)
16 MID-AMERICAN = 71.01 71.37 ( 15) 12 71.26 ( 16) 17 SUN BELT = 70.10 70.29 ( 18) 11 70.17 ( 17)
18 COLONIAL = 69.63 69.43 ( 20) 11 69.45 ( 20)
19 AMERICA EAST = 69.46 69.14 ( 22) 9 69.24 ( 21) 20 PATRIOT = 69.36 70.54 ( 17) 8 70.06 ( 18)
21 IVY LEAGUE = 69.05 69.63 ( 19) 8 69.50 ( 19)
22 SUMMIT LEAGUE = 68.62 68.94 ( 23) 9 68.78 ( 23) 23 OHIO VALLEY = 68.57 69.16 ( 21) 12 68.87 ( 22) 24 NORTHEAST = 67.79 67.93 ( 24) 12 67.92 ( 24)
25 SOUTHLAND = 66.93 67.70 ( 25) 10 67.39 ( 25)
26 ATLANTIC SUN = 66.68 67.05 ( 26) 10 66.98 ( 26) 27 BIG SOUTH = 66.44 65.77 ( 29) 12 66.00 ( 29)
28 SOUTHERN = 65.95 66.11 ( 28) 12 66.09 ( 27)
29 BIG SKY = 65.44 66.23 ( 27) 11 66.00 ( 28)
30 MID-EASTERN = 65.03 64.76 ( 30) 13 64.82 ( 30) 31 GREAT WEST = 63.01 62.69 ( 31) 5 62.73 ( 31)
32 INDEPENDENTS = 62.60 62.60 ( 32) 2 62.60 ( 32) 33 SOUTHWESTERN = 61.85 62.10 ( 33) 10 62.06 ( 33)


Mountain West second best conference?



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Posted by tgr4ever on 1/11 at 7:06 pm to emoney
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Mountain West second best conference?
Yes



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Posted by emoney on 1/11 at 7:13 pm to Govt Tide
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As a big college hoops, I've been very impressed with how stout the league has been in recent years. It is easily the toughest and deepest league in basketball and is on its way to ruling basketball the way the SEC does football.


The presence of AAU basketball, the year round seasons, the lack of players participating in baseball, and impressive coaches have really allowed the Big Ten to make big strides in the last five years.



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Posted by Keys Open Doors on 1/11 at 7:20 pm to Govt Tide
The ACC trades Maryland for Syracuse, Louisville, Notre Dame, and Pitt next year. It will be the toughest conference in the country as long as it exists.


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Posted by Lester Earl on 1/11 at 7:21 pm to Govt Tide
they are pretty good at being consistently overrated


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Posted by UFownstSECsince1950 on 1/11 at 7:25 pm to Govt Tide
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As a big college hoops, I've been very impressed with how stout the league has been in recent years. It is easily the toughest and deepest league in basketball
in the last 7 years, tSEC has 3 NCs. How many does the big10 have? When is the last time the big10 even won a championship? A decade+ ago?



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Posted by DollaChoppa on 1/11 at 7:35 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I agree. You dont have to have the most championships IMO, but you have to at least have 1 recently.


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Posted by Lester Earl on 1/11 at 7:39 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
the big 10 has 1 title since 1990. lol


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Posted by VABuckeye on 1/11 at 7:39 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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in the last 7 years, tSEC has 3 NCs. How many does the big10 have? When is the last time the big10 even won a championship? A decade+ ago?


Can't you understand that having the best conference doesn't have to mean having THE best team but having the best and deepest collection of teams? The B1G has this easily this year.



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Posted by emoney on 1/11 at 7:40 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Isn't there a difference between a deep conference and two top tier teams though? Nobody thinks the SEC is dominant, they just have had a couple really great teams.


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Posted by DollaChoppa on 1/11 at 7:45 pm to emoney
Thats great and all, but if you never win any championships, it really doesnt mean shite.

I think it's lenient to say hey, you dont have to have the most. Or even the second most.

But come on, you have to have at least 1 per decade. Jesus.



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Posted by UFownstSECsince1950 on 1/11 at 7:45 pm to emoney
I just don't think a conference can be the "toughest" or "best" if you don't ever have the best teams residing in said conference.

1 NC in 23 years is not the best



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Posted by Lester Earl on 1/11 at 7:47 pm to emoney
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Nobody thinks the SEC is dominant


and anyone that thinks the Big10 has been dominant or is dominant is on crack



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Posted by KillerNut9 on 1/11 at 7:47 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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in the last 7 years, tSEC has 3 NCs. How many does the big10 have? When is the last time the big10 even won a championship? A decade+ ago?


What fricking awesome logic.



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Posted by UFownstSECsince1950 on 1/11 at 7:50 pm to KillerNut9
The big10 thumping their chests in basketball kinda reminds me of Tennessee fans who do the same. Sure, you won some regular season games, congrats. But you still suck and your empty trophy case reflects that. Better logic?


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Posted by emoney on 1/11 at 7:52 pm to KillerNut9
Here's to an all Big Ten Final Four so everyone can GFT.


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Posted by DollaChoppa on 1/11 at 7:52 pm to KillerNut9
Championships since Big 10 last won it all:

ACC: 5 (3 teams)
SEC: 3 (2 teams)
Big East: 3 (2 teams)
Big 12: 1

NUMBERS

DONT

LIE



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Posted by Lester Earl on 1/11 at 7:56 pm to DollaChoppa
In the last 10 years I can only think of 3 teams that have made the final 4 from big 10. Ohio state, mich st, and Illinois

Is it capable of being a dominant conference? Sure. Indiana and Michigan are sleeping giants, and if the other 2-3 teams keep pulling their weight then yes. It hasn't been dominant though. And even this year, talk to me after the tournament. How will these teams respond without having been there?



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