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Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm on 1/10 at 4:43 am to bamafan75
Faulk leaving dampened my spirits a little now. Did not think he'd go.. but Oh well.


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Posted by JR Hamilsbach on 1/10 at 6:41 am to tjtiger9
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Wing - NFL LINK
Minter - NFL LINK
Reid - NFL LINK
Simon - NFL LINK
Ware - NFL per Bonnette twitter
Mingo - NFL LINK
Montgomery - NFL LINK
Logan - NFL LINK
Ford - NFL LINK

Copeland- RETURNING LINK
Loston - RETURNING LINK

Davenport - TRANSFER to Tulane per WWL radio


I remember seeing this thread when it was initially posted. I can't imagine it being more depressing.



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Posted by Lsupimp on 1/10 at 8:22 am to JR Hamilsbach
Get used to it.
Every elite "football factory" school will experience the same thing .
We are a "victim" of tier one recruiting and excellent player development.
The new NFL contract and the possibility of injury ensures it.
Not to mention that the concept of a "college degree" has been completely devalued by the economic reality of the marketplace.
On the bright side, pretty much every freshman will play from this point out and LSU recruits like few others.
Les has been ahead of the curve on this since around 2009 and now we know why.
I can't believe I just said "Les has been ahead of the curve"...



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Posted by SBC on 1/10 at 8:53 am to Lsupimp
6 out of these 10 guys gave LSU a full 4 years of their lives since they redshirted. I don't think it is fair to ask for any more than that.


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Posted by Haughton99 on 1/10 at 9:21 am to Lsupimp
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Every elite "football factory" school will experience the same thing .


Please tell me the other "football factory" that has this many juniors leaving and I'll agree that this is normal.



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Posted by Lsupimp on 1/10 at 10:10 am to Haughton99
If you prefer NARRATIVE to TRUTH, who am I to deter you ? Believe what you want, I don't give a frick. The world is full of people who reach their conclusion first and then conveniently shape the facts to support their erroneous conclusion.


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Posted by Ford Frenzy on 1/10 at 10:15 am to Lsupimp
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Every elite "football factory" school will experience the same thing .
our juniors that are all "NFL ready" are leaving from a team that couldn't even win the Peach Bowl



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Posted by Preys on Gumps on 1/10 at 11:19 am to Ford Frenzy
Ponamsky just said Muncie transferred? How out the loop am I?


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Posted by West Bank Dan on 1/10 at 12:13 pm to Lsupimp
LSUpimp has it right. Much like elite college basketball is headlined by "one-and-done" 18 year-old freshmen, we will have to start rooting for our sophomores to beat Bama's sophomores (using the age exemption to make a point). Top level players coming back for their senior years will become less and less frequent. Surprised Andy Murray is going back to UGA, honestly.


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Posted by Mudminnow on 1/10 at 12:50 pm to Ford Frenzy
From what I gather, departing players will be more vocal AFTER the draft. They are just towing the company line at the moment. They all respect Miles as a person and think he's a great guy, but many question his football managing.


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Posted by Choupique19 on 1/10 at 1:11 pm to West Bank Dan
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we will have to start rooting for our sophomores to beat Bama's sophomores


Except that LSU is the only team losing 10 underclassmen. Ala-freaking-bama has won 3 out of the last 4 national titles, what else is left for their players to prove? Well, obviously something, because they may lose 2 underclassmen to the draft. Meanwhile the Chicken Bowl runner-ups are losing 10.



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Posted by jdg91878 on 1/10 at 2:02 pm to Choupique19
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Ala-freaking-bama has won 3 out of the last 4 national titles


2 of them are legitimate I guess. In this corrupt system where double standards do in fact exist, some teams (LSU) do not get the double standard. While other teams (Bama) do not hold, do not have to play good teams from the SEC East, and get illegitimate rematches. I wonder how Barrett Jones will react on the 1st holding call of his career in his 1st career NFL game?



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Posted by Tiger Phanatick on 1/10 at 3:38 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
I wonder if the coaches told Faulk that he maybe in an open competition if he returned.

Although i doubt it. Just reaching to see if maybe someof the younger guys had came along well enough to challeneg him for that starting role?

I think we will be fine considering he didnt play but in a few games this past year. I dont feel bad becuase he wasnt here making an impact anyways.



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Posted by Tiger2763 on 1/10 at 4:53 pm to Tiger Phanatick
I call BS on some of the posts here!

I don't care what anyone says, this is not 'normal' or 'typical' for any program.

Why is that all of a sudden we have at least 10 juniors leave when prior to now we've never had more than 3? The world of pro ball hasn't had a monumental shift this season that would cause only LSU juniors to all of a sudden turn pro.

No it's far deeper than that. These kids have seen the debacle that has ensued sine January 2012 and have had enough. They probably feel its not worth risking their NFL careers for the awful embarrassing offensive team we've become when it's clear to them we will not be truly competing again until coaching changes are made. I would feel the same way in their shoes and want to move on.

This will serve only to further embarrass the Tiger nation when so much talent walks away leaving the rest to start over. Think about it, almost the entire junior and senior classes will be gone. This have never happened before and we'll be lucky to go 6-6 next season.




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Posted by Willie Stroker on 1/10 at 6:07 pm to Tiger2763
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No it's far deeper than that. These kids have seen the debacle that has ensued sine January 2012 and have had enough. They probably feel its not worth risking their NFL careers for the awful embarrassing offensive team we've become when it's clear to them we will not be truly competing again until coaching changes are made. I would feel the same way in their shoes and want to move on.


So which players do you think should stay?

Early in the season (before we knew definitively that this season would not result in a national championship and would result in a gawdawful 10 win season), we knew with near certainty that Mingo, Montgomery, and Reid were virtual locks to go. We knew this about Mathieu too since he was gone before the first game. We knew with some degree of certainty that Faulk, Logan, and Simon would be strong candidates to leave early depending on whether or not they met expectations. Since Logan and Simon met expectations, we should not be surprised to see them go. With Faulk, we did not know he would miss an entire season's worth of an opportunity to prove himself. If he played to expectations, he may have been gone anyway.

Most of us did not expect to see Minter go because we did not know he would be this consistently good. But based on what we knew about the other players leaving early, how much of a stretch was it that Minter would go if he turned out to be #1 at his position and his primary rival for draft slotting at Bama would decide to stay?

So far, don't all these departures sound reasonable? If not, make your case why these are unreasonable.

Did most of us know that Wing would be eligible? I didn't. Most of us that did not even wonder about his eligibility and presumed we would have him only through his junior year recognized his talent and speculated that we would have that rare punter who left after his junior year. We said that because we believed he would only be eligible then. Knowing what we know now, it makes perfect sense for him to leave. The team does not need another player with weed problems. We will not miss him and should not be surprised to see him go.

But Ware and Ford were known possibilities as well. They merely needed to stay healthy and show their talent. They did. We did not know (though there was significant positive speculation), that Hill would become the featured back. Once we learned that, coupled with the knowledge that Blue would be returning, most of us were saying that Ware would go and that Ford SHOULD go even before losses to Bama and Clemson.

So in my opinion Faulk is the only surprise based on what we know. It is rare for an OL injured that early in the season to go pro without taking another shot at proving their health to improve draft stock. Can any of you honestly say that any of these players other than Faulk should be staying for another year, even if we had a different coach?



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Posted by Papa Tigah on 1/10 at 7:49 pm to Lsupimp
I just don't think Mingo has enough arse to play in the NFL.


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