Is America Still a Good Country? Or, are we the bad guys now?
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re: Is America Still a Good Country? Or, are we the bad guys now?
Posted by mograyback on 12/31 at 6:20 pm to thetempleowl
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When disaster strikes, who is there first? Whose military is often providing humanitarian missions with helicopters?


I call BS. We do that to gain political edge in certain regions.

Yet we have stripped not just countries but continents of their resources for our capitalist motives.

Look into something like the United Fruit Co in the 1950s.



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Posted by Joshjrn on 12/31 at 6:22 pm to AlaTiger
We're neither. We're merely pragmatic. We do what is in our perceived best interest and don't do what is perceived not to be in our best interest. Nothing inherently wrong with that. I just wish people will open their eyes and drop the myth that we are a benevolent superpower. We aren't. I have no clue if we ever were, but we certainly aren't now.


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Posted by Midwesterner on 12/31 at 6:23 pm to thetempleowl
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America is both good and bad. When disaster strikes, who is there first? Whose military is often providing humanitarian missions with helicopters? When there is a disaster, the world often looks to the US to lead. But by the same token, this token has done some bad things to protect its interests or its presumed interests. We might be considered the best and the worst country in the world for that reason


The social democracies of the Scandinavian Circle actually lead in humanitarian efforts and disaster reliefs.



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Posted by mograyback on 12/31 at 6:37 pm to Joshjrn
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We're neither. We're merely pragmatic. We do what is in our perceived best interest and don't do what is perceived not to be in our best interest. Nothing inherently wrong with that. I just wish people will open their eyes and drop the myth that we are a benevolent superpower. We aren't


The ultimate passive aggressive.

If things we've done for our own best interest are bad, then yes, it is bad. It doesn't matter that we did it for our own best interest.



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Posted by Gray Tiger on 12/31 at 6:37 pm to AlaTiger
We are still bad, just ask any liberalista. We will always be bad even when we have been marginalized into a second rate power.


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Posted by mograyback on 12/31 at 6:39 pm to Gray Tiger
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We will always be bad even when we have been marginalized into a second rate power.


Power really has no relevance in determining good or bad, as the OP has tried to explain a couple times now.



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Posted by PirateJunk on 12/31 at 6:47 pm to AlaTiger
We never were the "Good Guys." The good guys get conquered not necessarily by the "bad guys", but by the guys who are willing to put aside honesty and morality in pursuit of power. We have been relatively good in comparison to other countries(Nazi Germany, Soviet Union), but we've never been some bastion of morality.


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Posted by AlaTiger on 12/31 at 6:58 pm to Joshjrn
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We're neither. We're merely pragmatic. We do what is in our perceived best interest and don't do what is perceived not to be in our best interest. Nothing inherently wrong with that. I just wish people will open their eyes and drop the myth that we are a benevolent superpower. We aren't. I have no clue if we ever were, but we certainly aren't now.


I agree. But, we put forward the idea that we are good in all we do so that our people get behind American policy and support it without asking too many questions. No matter who is in power, you really don't see much change in foreign policy. Now, the domestic security apparatus seems to be marching forward despite the party as well. And, the American people ask no questions because what we do is always good all the time - according to the conventional wisdom.

We do a lot of good things. I just think that we would be better off if we did not think only about what benefitted us and instead thought about what was good and did those things.



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Posted by Tigah in the ATL on 12/31 at 7:38 pm to AlaTiger
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are we still a good country?
Americans, maybe.

The American gov't was hardly "good guys" during the cold war. We were just the ones fighting communism.



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Posted by mograyback on 12/31 at 7:41 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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The American gov't was hardly "good guys" during the cold war. We were just the ones fighting communism.


Among thousands of other examples, yes. And I think you'd be interested to learn that we did things like fund Russia via loans to arm themselves while we were fighting communism in Vietnam.


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Posted by AlaTiger on 12/31 at 8:27 pm to mograyback
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Among thousands of other examples, yes. And I think you'd be interested to learn that we did things like fund Russia via loans to arm themselves while we were fighting communism in Vietnam.


Really? Interesting. Have any kind of link to that?

Apparently, we are funding and arming Al Qaeda in Syria now, as well.



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Posted by Toddy on 12/31 at 8:28 pm to mograyback
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Among thousands of other examples, yes. And I think you'd be interested to learn that we did things like fund Russia via loans to arm themselves while we were fighting communism in Vietnam.



Please expound on this.



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Posted by keakdasneak on 12/31 at 9:33 pm to AlaTiger
I recently moved to Korea and have an observation. The older generation will start conversations with us and when we say we are American I am thanked as if I fought the war myself. Do you think in 60 years the older people in Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan will see Americans in the same light?


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Posted by FightinTigersDammit on 12/31 at 9:36 pm to keakdasneak
To the left and their captive media, America is, was, and always will be the bad guy.


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