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Posted by Sanford&MunSon on 3/3 at 10:54 am to Kashonly
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you may not have my name but you have my blood.


This is actually pretty telling. Martin makes sure that the reader knows that Jon posseses Stark qualities. And when Ned delivers this line he's doing so to let the reader know that Jon's lineage is tied to Ned by blood. If he were Robert's son why would he say this? Also why would Ned be protecting Robert's legitimate child? Another thing to note is that when Ned left King's Landing after it wassacked he did not have a child in his possesion. It's when he comes back from the Tower of Joy, where his sister was being held, and Dorne that he has Jon with him. Plus Jon is too young to be their first child bc he would be older than Joffery who is 15 I think. Jon is 14 in the first book. Now Gendry would be about the right age.


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Posted by glassman on 3/3 at 1:15 pm to Carson123987
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I liked seeing Ygritte in cowgirl


That too...



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 3/3 at 1:25 pm to glassman
Im pretty sure that dark haired son of Roberts never existed in the books. I think it was just something the show used to make the viewers more sympathetic towards cersei


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Posted by LoveThatMoney on 3/3 at 1:34 pm to CottonWasKing
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Im pretty sure that dark haired son of Roberts never existed in the books. I think it was just something the show used to make the viewers more sympathetic towards cersei


Precisely. I actually like it better. She seems more realistic in the show. Rather than being a lunatic, narcissistic, incestuous cunt, she has been driven into the arms of her brother because of Robert's rage.



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Posted by Tiger Voodoo on 3/3 at 1:47 pm to CottonWasKing
Yeah man this whole idea is WAY off.

Not only did Cersei not have a child that died in the books, but the line from Ned to Jon about having his blood isn't even in the books. That whole interaction was completely new from the series. I actually think it was a great addition though. Ned and Jon never even have a farewell scene in the book.

It's similar to the scene with Tywin and Jamie in the tent when Tywin is skinning that deer. It's a great scene that gives a lot of background on the relationship, but it was not in the book. Still a good device by the producers.

I'll say this though for Kash, I read the books AFTER watching season 1 and I thought the same thing he did. I was convinced Jon was Robert's heir just didn't really know how yet.

Then I read the books

It could just be the show's way of introducing some doubt for the viewers about Jon being Ned's son since the LS/RT storyline is given virtually no time without the flashbacks and references to the TOJ.

Still my biggest complaint with the series.


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Posted by Sanford&MunSon on 3/3 at 1:49 pm to CottonWasKing
Yeah its been awhile since ive read the first book. I cant remember if its in there or not. The show changed alot of small things like that.


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Posted by OMLandshark on 3/3 at 3:35 pm to auyushu
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ooohh the bear pit. Very nice.



Yeah, I was afraid they'd remove that and have Brienne in some other lethal situation that Jaime saves her from. Glad they kept that.



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Posted by hawgfaninc on 3/3 at 6:03 pm to OMLandshark
just realized yesterday in my re-read through of the books that Jeor Mormont is Jorah Mormonts dad. kind of blew my mind for a second. can't believe i didn't catch it the first read through

also does anyone think that one of the stark kids, jon snow, or another person with the warg capabilities will be able to skinchange into one of the dragons later? would be crazy and throw a monkey wrench into the whole deal...



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Posted by OMLandshark on 3/3 at 6:06 pm to hawgfaninc
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just realized yesterday in my re-read through of the books that Jeor Mormont is Jorah Mormonts dad. kind of blew my mind for a second. can't believe i didn't catch it the first read through



Yeah, it blew my mind when I figured it out just about halfway through the first book. I definitely didn't realize it watching the first two seasons of the series.



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Posted by Sanford&MunSon on 3/3 at 6:11 pm to hawgfaninc
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warg into one of the dragons


In the asoiaf forums this is a popular idea. Some fans think yes. They also think that the valyrians never encroached on westeros bc they feared the warging abilities of the first men and cotf. I could see that happening.



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Posted by hawgfaninc on 3/3 at 6:36 pm to Sanford&MunSon
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In the asoiaf forums this is a popular idea.

ah cool. i need to check out the asoiaf forums to see what else they've thought of that will probably blow my mind.



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Posted by kingbob on 3/3 at 6:44 pm to hawgfaninc
as for a super crackpot theory:
Where did the children of the forest go?
What happened during the doom of Valyria?

Many of the children of the forest, realizing their time in Westeros was done, set sail for Valyria. They then warged into the dragons as an attempt to steal them and bring them back to Westeros to defeat the Andals. However, they could not control the dragons and ended up causing the doom of Valyria between the out of control dragons and the magic they tried to use to control them further.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 3/3 at 7:29 pm to kingbob
While a cool theory I think Valyria was just a the victim of a supervolcano

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Posted by 19 on 3/4 at 1:00 am to kingbob
I like it, Bob. Reminiscent of what tCotF did to The Neck in an attempt to stem the Andal advance North in Westeros.

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Slightly extended trailer. More awesome footage.


Read any of the comments? Kinda skewed, but evidence of Thronception mutating.

Too bad we have the virus in its pure form.



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Posted by BluegrassBelle on 3/4 at 7:45 am to Carson123987
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I liked seeing Ygritte in cowgirl


Or receiving the "lord's kiss".



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Posted by Books on 3/4 at 7:57 am to CottonWasKing
Queenscrown






This great too



Need more Arya


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Posted by 19 on 3/4 at 8:25 am to Books
And was that a flash of Dracarys behind Dany I saw?


Nice shot of Brienne's Grandma...
Oh wait



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Posted by Papercutninja on 3/5 at 3:53 pm to 19
So I was trying to figure out how Gendry plays a role in the future seeing as how the only people that know he is Robert's son for sure are dead. So let's say that at some point, Stoneheart goes too far and "King Robert's Men" decide that she is no longer fit or something happens that creates a leadership vaccuum in the BWOB. Brienne puts it forth that Gendry is a Baratheon and because of his royal ties he is made the leader.

We know that Stannis isnt going to make it out alive which would mean that there would only be Shireen left to claim any Baratheon lands and titles. I get the feeling that she and Selyse aren't going to live past of WoW. Just call it a hunch. I feel like once Targs hit Westeros in full force that the BWOB would easily link up with them and become a quasi-sellsword company given their mutual hate for the Lannisters.

Gendry and company provide leal service to the new crown and as a result he is legitimized and given Storm's End. Then he can marry a re-animated Arya, after she Nissa Nissas Jon's Sword. Oh and I don't give a shite about Edric Storm.

/crackpot



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Posted by shinerfan on 3/5 at 4:08 pm to Papercutninja
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Brienne puts it forth that Gendry is a Baratheon and because of his royal ties he is made the leader.


How does Brienne figure it out? She's a good character but she doesn't seem that sharp.



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Posted by Papercutninja on 3/5 at 5:30 pm to shinerfan
Well she all but makes the connection right before she fights Rorge and Biter at the Inn. She commented on how much he looked like Renly and having grown up in the shadow of the Red Keep, the wheels start clicking. I guess the only leap is how to prove it. I would wager that it would take Thoros to take a peak into the flames to validate it.

I imagine that Lady Stoneheart's leadership will split the group into the blood thirsty and those seeking justice after the Frey's are all dead. She isn't going to stop until everyone involved is dead and that will include women and children of House Frey. I don't think that the whole group will go along with that.



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