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Posted by Rohan2Reed on 7/31 at 3:35 pm to TulaneUVA quote: You also have to factor into account that you don't have to deal with setting foot inside a Walmart. Which is obviously relevant to you personally based on your previous statement: quote: quote: Relatively. That's a key word we need here. You can't appreciate how shitty something is unless you've eaten something 100x better at a local restaurant for not that much more money. quote: Fair enough. Reply • Back to Top |
quote:Silly game. Go to Pokies and go to OG. See which one is cheaper. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: That really is pretty bad...WOW!  Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I'll probably get bashed on here for this, but Pokies? Where? Reply • Back to Top |
| ah sorry. It's pocorello's. http://pocorellos.net/ His name is pokie though. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Okay. Score one for Pokies. What's my score? Gotta compare Monjuni's (chain?), DeAngelos (kind of a chain but local right?), Gino's, DiGiulio's, Ruffinos, Nino's Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Rohan2Reed on 7/31 at 3:56 pm to TulaneUVA compare Copeland's or Ralph & Kacoo's to Tony's SeafoodReply • Back to Top |
quote: I agree with everything you said here Unfortunately in other parts of the country a lot of people are charging Applebees or more prices and not even putting out slop that meets Applebee's standards. That obviously isn't the case in most big metro areas and places with a rich food culture. But for a lot of rural and small town America, it's not that uncommon. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Rohan2Reed on 7/31 at 4:39 pm to Powerman quote: Well that's on them. It's the restaurant owner's job to step up their game and it's the citizens' job to not accept a shitty food scene. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Some people just don't know any better though I've seen shitty overpriced restaurants thrive and watch reasonably priced decent restaurants falter in cities where people don't know good food. Reply • Back to Top |
| Also it's not like culinary talent flocks to these places If you're a good chef, you're not going to go there. You're going to go somewhere where there is already a market of people that at least have some semblance of recognizing good food. Reply • Back to Top |
| As you can tell I support the local guy, sometimes. I have driven around most of the country and USUALLY tried to find a local place instead of the chain next to the interstate. I have been burned in this pretty badly, in Alabama, especially the rural areas, I will hit the Subway or BK in a heartbeat. This is after eating a few dozen really, really bad meals, the last time getting very ill, I surrendered. Mississippi usually has a few hidden treats, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida, I need a rec. I support Mr. Local, but I'm not an idiot about it. Reply • Back to Top |
| If I'm passing though I'll usually try to find a diner or something if it looks like a podunk town. You can pretty much bet just about everything else is going to be terrible unless it's some podunk place in BBQ country. Reply • Back to Top |
| Many years ago I worked the line at a place that I will not mention. When you started your shift you asked who was managing that night, and there was always the corporate manager to boot. Each of the managers had a different method of approaching the desired product. From a cooks standpoint it was hell on wheels. Try cooking a cut of primerib in jus for a minute or two. It was the predecessor of microwaved steak. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Mike da Tigah on 8/1 at 7:07 am to Powerman quote: Powerman, what you don't know about food can be fit in the grand fricking canyon. Get over yourself. I'll post wherever I like as if you speak for the collective voice of this board. I've brought up plenty of very valid and relative points that make sense because they're right. I didn't make them up by myself or pull it out of thin air, it's just the way it is because it's just the nature of this business. And if you'll notice, as usual, it was a pretty calm discussion until, as usual, you start slinging insults and swinging your verbal club around. People may or may not agree with me PM, but when it comes to terrible posters my man, you're king of them all, because quite honestly, as big an arse as you try and paint me to be, you are bigger in spades. I don't make it personal, YOU make it personal. I don't follow you around, or any poster for that matter and call them out personally or hang on their nuts every post they make. Matter of fact, I don't obsess with ANY poster on here, and except for this response to your relentless personal attacks on me, that includes you if you'll notice, nor do I call people out in threads by name and make it my duty to attack them as you've incinuated I do in the past. THAT again sir is YOUR game and what you do. Let's be very clear about who does what here. I simply take consistent positions in the need to embrace certain sound principles as it relates to supporting local when they deserve it of course, and not supporting chains that rule this city and make it difficult if not impossible at times for local TALENT to actually get in the business and make BR a real place of destination for food, thus creating a better food environment for those of us who LIVE here, which BTW, you don't and so have no vested interest in it one way or the other. I do though which is why of course I find it important to promote those ideas. This post was edited on 8/1 at 8:26 am Reply • Back to Top |
| I don't obsess over you. I obsess over stupidity. It just so happens to be your favorite thing to regurgitate. You admit to never eating at chains so how would you even be able to make a value judgment on things that you don't even partake in? If someone wants an honest comparison on two things then they'll want it from someone that has plenty of exposure to both. Not some idiot who is screaming from the mountain tops about how one is better than the other when they have only tried one of the two. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Mike da Tigah on 8/1 at 10:53 am to Powerman quote: The frick you don't. I was talking with people in this very thread about items of interest to this thread and you pop in and start calling me out AS YOU ALWAYS DO. It's a very unhealthy obsession you have with me Powerman. Conversely, you don't see me going after you or anyone else for that matter every time you or they post something I don't agree with and calling you or they an idiot, and that's one of the tame things you call people. It's the actions of someone that has some real issues that aren't centered around anything other than intollerance for opinions that don't line up with your own, or shake your world I suppose. frick if I know. All I do know is it's fricking retarded. quote: BULL shite... I admit to avoiding them at all costs. Sometimes I have to entertain customers which, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I MAKE A LIVING, makes me have to endure things I really don't choose to do, but have to. At other times, there are no real alternatives because of either the abysmal local food of that genre or because of time and I do have to eat to live. What I support Powerman, is supporting local restaurants that execute and do good food. I will always support them first because of that, and avoid chains whenever humanly possible. That's just the way I roll. If it upsets you, get the frick over it. People are different. quote: I do have exposure to both Powerman. I'm at least twice your age, and have wisdom to show for it, but you wouldn't know that because all you do is insult and come at me with a club when it's totally unfrickingnecessary and unwarranted. If I said something like the political landscape of America is a mess because of the choices of Americans at the poll, I know damn well you would be in agreement because we've had that discussion in the past on the PT and I know where you stood on it. HOWEVER, when I say the epicurian landscape of a city is the way it is because of the choices of people, I'm damned to hell and we're not responsible for that and can't change it because we're victims of it rather than the creators of it. That's some fricking crazy arse nonsense, and doesn't make a bit of sense. Am I really saying stuff that's cutting edge here? Is this really something you would be shocked to hear a person that's really into food or maybe in the business say? Would you be shocked if you heard Besh say it is important to support local talent, local chefs, local restaurants, sustainability, cooking with principle? How about any other chef of notable credibility? How about supporting local business in general over national chains? Is that really something you would find odd to hear someone 50 years ago say? How about a hundred or two hundred years ago if they had chains coming into town? How about asking a farmer 50 or so years ago if it made sense that their soil had no earth worms in it and they had to keep amping up the amount of chemicals into the soil every year to maintain a soil that would grow something? How about asking the farmers affected by the dust bowl? Think they would understand the concept of retardation as it relates to our food and farming? Think they would understand the concept of why it's important to take care of your soil and rotate crops? How about asking farmers now, because the one's I speak with, and yes I do know farmers, all say the same thing. THEY PREFER traditional farming techniques but the system itself keeps retardation as the standard rather than sound farming. All of these people know better, and all I do is as you say "regurgitate" what they say every day, but somehow you're ignorant of all this, or maybe it's some strange obsession you have with me that prevents you from entertaining something you haven't really thought of or challenges your perceptions which are all of a couple of decades old. Maybe you just don't know everything Powerman. I know I don't, and I've lived almost 5 decades and learned how much I didn't know. I'm still learning. Are you or do you have it all figured out already? I realize the internet has made everyone a genius, a millionaire, and a stud, but has it not also made people intollerant arse holes in the process? I can tolerate your or anyone else's opinion that don't line up with mine. The question is, why can't you do the same? This post was edited on 8/1 at 10:57 am Reply • Back to Top |
Breath guys.  Reply • Back to Top |
| Hate to bust yalls bubble, but neither Red Lobster or Olive Garden use prepackaged sysco products. Olive garden prepares all of their sauces daily. They are not prepackaged. Reply • Back to Top • Refresh |
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