2012/2013 Bayern Munchen Season Long Thread - Treble Edition
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Posted by Tweezy on 3/21 at 1:44 pm to hendersonshands
I'm not really sure. I haven't looked at the call ups, just seeing a bunch Of Jogi quotes on twitter. I know Kroos is still out, so I'm guessing ozil is in. Unless he's also hurt


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Posted by lesismeaurx on 4/12 at 11:17 am to Tweezy
Strategy against Barca: With Mandzo banned the first match and Kroos out for both games this could be a very tricky tie. Even if we were at full strength this wouldn't be straight forward at all.

The first question is who starts up top in the first game (at home)?
At first glance I said Mario. He's played in these big games many times before, he is a natural scorer and is big and strong enough to exploit the shite out of whoever Barca decide to trot out there.
At second glance it seems like Pizza could be our best option. His hold up play is a lot better than Mario's and I think his understanding with player's like Robben and Ribery could be very beneficial. Pizza is more similar to Mandzo than Mario is and he is obviously our best option for the style we have been trying to play.

After consideration, I think Gomez has to be the starter. If he can't take advantage of that back line prior to 60 min. then he comes off. Pizza would be motivated to come on and show his stuff. Mario tends to be a pretty lackluster sub.

The next question is how the midfield looks with Kroos out ( ). I think our wingers should be Ribery and Robben. Some may not agree with Robben, but the fact is he could easily destroy Alba. Muller is more of a toss up. The middle is interesting. I could see us playing Shaq in the playmaker role, with Bastian and Javi underneath. I really doubt that happens though. I also think a better solution is to move Bastian up to the playmaker and play Luiz and Javi underneath. That midfield gives us the best chance of controlling the ball AND giving Xavi/Iniesta/Messi a really hard time. Plus Bastian is no joke going forward. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

The back line is a delicate situation. If Jupp gets this wrong, we don't advance. Obviously Lahm and Alaba will be outside. The question is who is in the middle. I have no idea how fit Badstuber is so I'm just gonna assume he is out. That leaves Dante, DvB, and Boateng. I'll take Dante and Boateng. I know Boa can be really boneheaded sometimes, but DvB is entirely to slow to deal with Barca.

That leaves my line up for the first tie as such:

----------------Neuer--------------------
Lahm--------Boateng----Dante-----------Alaba
------------Javi--------Luiz--------------
---Robben--------Jesus---------------Ribery
-----------------Mario--------------------



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Posted by drockw1 on 4/13 at 10:36 am to lesismeaurx
Solid post...

I hate this f'in draw, this should have been the finals matchup...Dortmund has been fortunate with all their draws in the CL.

I am intrigued by the idea of playing Barça twice instead of once for all the marbles, not sure if it's better or worse..



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Posted by Tigerstark on 4/13 at 2:20 pm to lesismeaurx
Don't see how Tommy can be left off.

He is too good at all of the little things and puts himself in perfect positions.

He'll nutmeg a defender and score a goal in the first leg. Guarantee.





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Posted by lesismeaurx on 4/13 at 3:25 pm to Tigerstark
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Don't see how Tommy can be left off.


There is a very good chance he slots in for Kroos instead of my proposed lineup.

I'm not a huge fan of having him in the middle, and I prefer Robben to him in this matchup.



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Posted by Tigerstark on 4/13 at 3:43 pm to lesismeaurx
I'd rather him in Robben's position.

Robben missed about 8 chances that could have been goals against Juve.

Tommy also works great with Lahm - but Lahm is so good he works well with any RW that drifts inside a lot.



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Posted by lesismeaurx on 4/13 at 5:39 pm to Tigerstark
Like I said, most people don't agree with putting Robben ahead of Muller. Muller is better for our possession philosophy and is a hard worker, which is beneficial against a team like Barca. I still prefer what Robben is capable of against Alba.


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Posted by Tigerstark on 4/24 at 7:30 am to lesismeaurx
Well, I guess we had both Robben and Tommy on the pitch and it seemed to work

Watched the game last night after the kid went to sleep.

Excellent performance - I can't think of any of our players that didn't play well.

Javi dominated in the midfield. Enough so that Bastian was higher than normal a lot - even defensively at times. Everyone else harrassed and closed down really well. Even Robben seemed into it defensively (or at least, more than he usually does).

Robben did create a lot of havoc - but again he missed several opportunities to score that should have been put away. 2nd or so minute he either has to put that away or pass to the two wide open Bayern players in front of the net - may have been a hard pass due to angle of defender. I guess you have to leave him out there, but you don't see the other guys wasing that many opportunities.

Ribery was a machine - so far forward and yet sprinting back over and over to catch up and stop a Barca attack.

As the game went on, we stopped marking Messi so closely until he got about 25 or so yards in. We obviously realized that he wasn't going to make a 40 yard run with the ball. His health will essentially determine if Barca has any shot on the return leg. No way they score 4 without Messi as his best.



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Posted by Tweezy on 4/24 at 9:24 am to Tigerstark
Not much to be said really, executed the game plan and pushed in 4 goals. Kroos had knee surgery this morning or yesterday. He's gonna be out for a 'long time' whatever that means


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Posted by Tweezy on 4/24 at 9:25 am to Tweezy
But you can see how much he means to our possession game


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Posted by Jumbeauxlaya on 4/24 at 9:40 am to Tweezy
Just dropping in to say I officially have you all approaching Manchester United/Yankees levels of dislike/hidden jealousy. I just sympathize (empathize? I always use the wrong one) with BvB fans too much as a gooner.


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Posted by Tweezy on 4/24 at 9:48 am to Jumbeauxlaya
It's okay, once one of either Ribery or Robben leaves it will be nearly impossible to actually dislike the club. All the current players are actually really humble and play hard, we don't have a shite load of bad arse debt to pay off or need to government to help out. It would be awkward if Uli was using the tax evaded dollars to bring in more players, but I truly would be shocked if that was the case. I'm imagining it's just his personal money.


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Posted by Jumbeauxlaya on 4/24 at 9:51 am to Tweezy
Hey, stop that.

I already said I have hidden jealousy there's no need to make it a full blown give me a newspaper to hide the bulge in my pants envrection.



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Posted by Tweezy on 4/24 at 9:58 am to Jumbeauxlaya
Just teasing. I dont dislike Arsenal, as a fellow econ major I have a soft spot for Arsene. The main difference in the clubs (besides the obvious) is that Bayern has been able to keep their best players, while Arsenal opts to sell them. But both clubs are profitable and successful. I can imagine it is very frustrating at times though. All of my IRL friends who watch soccer (like 3 lol) are all Arsenal fans


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Posted by Jumbeauxlaya on 4/24 at 10:59 am to Tweezy
So it's kind of a hollow victory I know but I found this image on /r/gunners and thought it was pretty funny...





This post was edited on 4/24 at 10:59 am

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Posted by lesismeaurx on 4/24 at 12:09 pm to Tweezy
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Kroos had knee surgery


Great, I didn't know he had knee issues as well.

A bad hamstring and a messed up knee...not good.



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Posted by LSUSOBEAST1 on 4/24 at 12:20 pm to Tweezy
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But both clubs are profitable


Not really. Last season Arsenal were only profitable because they sold assets. That's concerning because #1 it isn't good for future performance and #2 it means their costs are too high and revenue is too low. They also have huge debts, but have made up a ton of room in terms of match day revenue.

I sound smart, don't I?

No, actually a really intelligent banker had a great thread on /r/soccer (which of course went unnoticed for the most part, probably because it actually had good information and wasn't just a huge circle-jerk) where he dissected the financials based off of the Swiss Ramble's figures. He basically just did a Q&A with whoever was interested.



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Posted by Friend of OBUDan on 4/24 at 12:29 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Yeah, it's pretty clear our commercial department sucks and we have too many expenses.


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Posted by crazy4lsu on 4/24 at 12:49 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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Not really. Last season Arsenal were only profitable because they sold assets. That's concerning because #1 it isn't good for future performance and #2 it means their costs are too high and revenue is too low. They also have huge debts, but have made up a ton of room in terms of match day revenue.



Arsenal also operate under a false economy. The stadium deal looks more and more foolish, financed in the way it was so the shareholders could keep the value of their shares, which they did. It would have been better to invite foreign investment first, then build the stadium. Bayern did everything the right way, because they thought of themselves as a big club, rather than Arsenal trying to become a big club. Bayern have a better youth system, built a better stadium, and have better executives. I'm jealous of the way they are run.



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Posted by crazy4lsu on 4/24 at 12:49 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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No, actually a really intelligent banker had a great thread on /r/soccer (which of course went unnoticed for the most part, probably because it actually had good information and wasn't just a huge circle-jerk)


Link me?



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