le Tour de France 2012--Official Thread
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Posted by trackfan on 7/15 at 3:48 pm to snake23
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If I was Lance I think I would've asked the US to send their own SpecOps guys. I'm not so sure I would trust the French with my life.
What an ignorant post. If you want to express your Francophobia, I would suggest you start a thread on Political Talk or O-T Lounge. Meanwhile, let's keep this thread about cycling.



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Posted by engvol on 7/15 at 4:15 pm to castorinho
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lso said he's "without a doubt" better than Wiggins on cols and that he hopes he will be the leader of the team next year


Tbf he's not lying, Wiggins will win this tour due to superior TT ability and having a team who can keep him close on the mountains to not lose time.

Everyting i've read/heard about next year is that it will be more suited to the bigger climbers and with it being the 100 year anniversary I'd expect it to be, and so with it targeted like that Froome has every right to expect to be the leader, I also dont think Wiggins ego is big enough to not let it, and I doubt the interview is a surprise to Wiggins or Sky.


As for today makes you hate the French people from the mountains, not only do they think its okay to stand around in buggee smugglers and nothing else they try to sabotage their most high profile sporting event...If they find out who it is they need to go to jail, a guy has a broken collarbone due to their stupidity

Just watching a highlight show, and they show TJ looking right seeing Evans then looking left and carryin on...he's just said that he heard he had a puncture but guessed they had another rider to help....weak


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Posted by snake23 on 7/15 at 4:22 pm to trackfan



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Posted by Mahootney on 7/16 at 8:31 am to snake23
Yeah. The extra time trial emphasis has given Wiggins about a 4-5 minute advantage over the climbers. Maybe if sky let Froome attack, he could get some or most of it back.
But when you have a strong climber carrying you up the mountain, a TT specialist was probably going to win.

I'm hoping 16-17 aren't boring, but I'm afraid the downhill finish on 16 will make this a one stage race.



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Posted by engvol on 7/16 at 12:54 pm to Mahootney
Pretty boring stage today, I do wonder where Cavs head is at, Sky have 0 interest in helping him win stages.


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Posted by trackfan on 7/16 at 3:07 pm to engvol
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Pretty boring stage today, I do wonder where Cavs head is at, Sky have 0 interest in helping him win stages.

I can't think of an instance where a team asked an American athlete of his stature to put his ego aside in the manner that Cavendish has been asked to do. It's not like Cavendish is over the hill or even close to it. It would be like the 1995 Cowboys asking Emmitt Smith to be a blocking back. I still remember when Scottie Pippen refused to go in at the end of a playoff game because Phil Jackson called for Tony Kukoc to take the last-second shot instead of him. And more recently, Jorge Posada refused to take the field for the Yankees when he was moved to ninth in the batting order.



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Posted by engvol on 7/16 at 3:11 pm to trackfan
The thing is, he must have agreed to it when joiing Sky, I can only assume to help further prepare himself for the Olympics road race to help the chemistry with Wiggins and Froome. If he was lied to when going to Sky it would have come out by now.


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Posted by trackfan on 7/16 at 3:19 pm to engvol
It just seems like such a waste to use him to do the grunt work of an ordinary domestique.


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Posted by engvol on 7/16 at 3:32 pm to trackfan
Yeah i was saying that today, and how it might affect any attempt he has at merckx stage wins record

He has 1 stage this year, if you think he was at HTC, they definetly chase the break away down today, he probably doesn't have the crash as he would have been at the front as well, throw in champs-elysees and is at 24 wins..10 wins behind
Im not sure how much longer he has left at the top but 11 wins is a lot more likely in say 4 years than 13 is



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Posted by trackfan on 7/16 at 4:44 pm to engvol
He would have won at least a couple of the stages that Griepel and Sagan won if his had his HTC train.


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Posted by snake23 on 7/16 at 7:23 pm to trackfan
Cav has supposedly voluntarily joined the cause to make wiggins the first British tour champion. In return, team sky is gonna help Cav win the stage into Paris and help him out in the Olympics, which he has already stated is his main focus this year


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Posted by usc6158 on 7/16 at 7:28 pm to trackfan
The sprinting talent on HTC a couple years ago was insane

Cav, Grieple, Matty Goss, Mark Renshaw... STAAAACKED



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Posted by trackfan on 7/16 at 7:39 pm to usc6158
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The sprinting talent on HTC a couple years ago was insane Cav, Grieple, Matty Goss, Mark Renshaw... STAAAACKED

Talk about Murderer's Row!



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Posted by trackfan on 7/16 at 7:43 pm to snake23
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Cav has supposedly voluntarily joined the cause to make wiggins the first British tour champion. In return, team sky is gonna help Cav win the stage into Paris and help him out in the Olympics, which he has already stated is his main focus this year

That makes since. This will be the only time in his career that he'll have a chance to win Olympic Gold on British soil before his family and friends. As Dorothy said, There's no place like home.



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Posted by snake23 on 7/16 at 7:54 pm to trackfan
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Wiggins, along with fellow Tour stage winners, teammate Chris Froome and Garmin-Sharp’s David Millar, and another Sky teammate, British champion Ian Stannard, will be behind Cavendish’s bid for Olympic glory on July 28th, which is where the Manxman will be paid back for his sacrifices in France
. Read more: LINK ]
This article from today sums it up pretty well


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Posted by Mahootney on 7/17 at 8:57 am to snake23
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Wiggins, along with fellow Tour stage winners, teammate Chris Froome and Garmin-Sharp’s David Millar, and another Sky teammate, British champion Ian Stannard, will be behind Cavendish’s bid for Olympic glory on July 28th, which is where the Manxman will be paid back for his sacrifices in France
That's a pretty stacked team to compliment the world's best sprinter. Maybe that explains why Wiggins tried to practice as a lead-out man in this tour.
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That makes since. This will be the only time in his career that he'll have a chance to win Olympic Gold on British soil before his family and friends. As Dorothy said, There's no place like home.
I'd take that deal. He's only giving up about 3 wins in this year's tour for a legitimate shot at the Gold medal. That would only add one more year on the tour to get to Eddie. He's still got the best acceleration in the business, and he's probably got 4-5 more years in his prime.
Wouldn't you make that trade?



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Posted by castorinho on 7/17 at 10:05 am to Mahootney
Froome is hoping really bad that the likes of Nibali and Evans (Nibali especially since he's closer) attack these next two days so he can have an excuse to drop Wiggins.


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Posted by trackfan on 7/17 at 11:26 am to Mahootney
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Maybe that explains why Wiggins tried to practice as a lead-out man in this tour.

I see Wiggins as more of a set-up man (the third to last man in the train) rather than a lead-out man (the second to last). I don't think he has the top end of someone like Mark Renshaw.



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Posted by Mahootney on 7/17 at 1:55 pm to castorinho
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Froome is hoping really bad that the likes of Nibali and Evans (Nibali especially since he's closer) attack these next two days so he can have an excuse to drop Wiggins.
I really can't see Sky letting Froome loose to chase Nibali or Evans, especially if Wiggins is in difficulty.

But, you can tell from his interviews that he knows it was his tour to take. That's gotta suck. I'm just not sure that he could overcome the TT difference.

Wiggins should have it in the bag unless Nibali has something special Wed/Thurs.



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Posted by trackfan on 7/17 at 2:33 pm to Mahootney
Frank Schleck flunked a drug test on Saturday's stage.

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