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Will Obama Win a 2nd Term By Failing?
Posted by Bard on 6/5 at 10:47 pm
My roommie and I were talking politics tonight and something during the discussion made me think about this:

What is the effect on the economy if the USSC finds the President's healthcare bill unconstitutional in toto?

By my thinking, businesses are probably holding their breaths waiting on this decision before deciding whether to hire or not (or how many to hire... or even fire) because of the way the bill -or lack thereof- will effect their bottom lines.

With that said, if the healthcare bill is rule unconstitutional, does this cause an upswing in the economy?

If not, why not?

If so, could it be enough (especially with gasoline prices dropping like they currently are) for the President to fail his way into a 2nd term?



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Posted by Zahrim on 6/5 at 10:49 pm to Bard
He will fail his way to an election loss in nivember... now, Bard, go log on Everquest, it is free to play and I have an open invitation to any returning player to join Noble Blade, just shoot me a /tell in game :) We are only a social guild now, no more raiding,


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Posted by CamdenTiger on 6/5 at 10:51 pm to Bard
Nah, most will see failure on top of failure.. But you never know, there are some dumb arse Americans that are living off the big tit of Gov't.


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Posted by blowmeauburn on 6/5 at 10:52 pm to Bard
While I think the #1 problem right now is uncertainty, I think its more than just Health Care.

Coming down the pipe in the next year you have:

Health Care
Debt Ceiling Negotiations
Bush Tax Cuts Expiring
Spending Cut Agreements from last year.


All these things may or may not happen. If you were a small business of about 10 employees, would you be willing to hire one or 2 more employees under this level of uncertainty?

I think thats a fair question.



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Posted by Bard on 6/5 at 10:53 pm to Zahrim
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now, Bard, go log on Everquest, it is free to play and I have an open invitation to any returning player to join Noble Blade, just shoot me a /tell in game :)


If I can ever tear myself away from DCUO long enough, I will definitely take you up on that



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Posted by Zahrim on 6/5 at 10:56 pm to Bard
Cool


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Posted by WildcatMike on 6/5 at 11:30 pm to Zahrim
Europe's economy is going to drag us down and flatline the economy...the ruling of the HC will have some effects, but it is a global economy.


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Posted by constant cough on 6/5 at 11:31 pm to Bard



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Posted by Tiger Authority on 6/5 at 11:33 pm to Bard
Depends on companies that have already factored the costs into their outlook/projections. I'm sure it will have an affect with some but it would be too speculative at this point to know for sure.

But I really really want this mandate to be struck down.



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Posted by big Tiger 1885 on 6/6 at 12:32 am to Bard
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Will Obama Win a 2nd Term By Failing?


No. I think tonight's results in Wisconsin have got to be making Obama shat his pants. When Obamacare is declared unconstitutional, his only achievement would be crossed off. So basically in four years he accomplished nothing of note (except for letting Seal Team 6 put a bullet through bin Laden's head ).



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Posted by Bard on 6/6 at 3:08 pm to big Tiger 1885
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No. I think tonight's results in Wisconsin have got to be making Obama shat his pants.


I agree about the WI decision, but I can't help but wonder what sort of domino effect is coming from the USSC's decision (regardless of which way it goes).

Considering the other responses, if Obamacare fails, gasoline goes below $3/gallon and Congress keeps the Bush tax cuts and this all happens before October, does the economy pick up enough for the President to get re-elected?



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Posted by Anodyne on 6/6 at 3:17 pm to Bard
Obama better hope they at least rule the mandate unconstitutional. I think a ruling in support of Obamacare will likely have a very adverse effect on the economy.

Most of my friends that own or run businesses effected by this impending law have always assumed it would be shot down in some capacity.

It these people end up on the hook, you are going to see a lot of firings and the like as a result IMO.



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