Vilma's attorney: 10k "bounty" did not exist, did not happen

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Posted by Fun Bunch

on 5/10 at 5:43 pm

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On Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan's show, courtesy of SR:

Was asked about the 10k bounty. Said it absolutely did not exist.
Was asked about the report that Vilma was given 10k to waive in front of the players. Said it just did not happen.
Was asked about how does this info come out. Said that 1 or 2 people disgruntled with the Saints made stuff up and the Commish used the info without doing additional research. Tim Ryan said he knows who it was, but is not saying on air.
Said they requested to speak with Goodell weeks and months ago when Vilma's name was first being associated with this. Goodell never responded.
He also said that he believes Goodell got himself into this mess with faulty info and now can't back out of it.

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Posted by saturday

on 5/10 at 5:45 pm to Fun Bunch

hmmm

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Posted by liquid rabbit

on 5/10 at 5:45 pm to Fun Bunch

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Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins

on 5/10 at 5:52 pm to Fun Bunch

Well, I'm sold, because attorneys always tell the truth.

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Posted by Melvin

on 5/10 at 5:58 pm to Fun Bunch

Must be pretty confident in the lack of evidence

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Posted by notiger1997 on 5/10 at 6:01 pm to Fun Bunch

This shite is so strange.
Goodell laid it all out like he had this amazing amount of evidence and kicked arse and took names with punishment. Now we are hearing lots of push back from different people involved.

I wonder if just hearing that Greg Williams tape was enough to piss Goodell off and get him to go nuts on the punishment.

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Posted by Breesus

on 5/10 at 6:03 pm to AmosMosesAndTwins

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Well, I'm sold, because attorneys always tell the truth.

This

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Posted by CocoLoco

on 5/10 at 6:04 pm to notiger1997

Ok, so if it didn't exist then what happens with the higher authorities (Vitt, Loomis, Payton)?

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Posted by Hoodoo Man

on 5/10 at 6:11 pm to Fun Bunch

Fascinating.

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Posted by Breesus

on 5/10 at 6:26 pm to CocoLoco

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what happens with the higher authorities (Vitt, Loomis, Payton)?

They were punished for lying about and refusing to stop a possibly nonexistent program. Their penalties stay regardless of what happens to the players who are exonerated after being penalized for possibly participating in a program that may our may not have ever existed

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Posted by Patrick O Rly

on 5/10 at 6:28 pm to Breesus

I see the NFL's defense like this:

The Saints paid players $500 for a sack.

"You see! They were targeting players! Bounty!"

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Posted by Brettesaurus Rex

on 5/10 at 6:29 pm to Breesus

I still don't think even with the recent wave of revolt against the NfL, nothing gets reversed

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Posted by goatmilker

on 5/10 at 6:30 pm to Patrick O Rly

Lawyers rule...

Really they do!

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Posted by Breesus

on 5/10 at 6:34 pm to Patrick O Rly

I know who their lawyer is

This post was edited on 5/10 at 6:35 pm

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Posted by CocoLoco

on 5/10 at 6:34 pm to Breesus

But if proven innocent, then it shows they were actually telling the truth when they denied the program actually took place the way it was described. What if they somehow prove that the "pay to injure" part of this never existed? IF this happens you can bet on some serious shite to go down. I know the suspensions won't be dropped, but it would definitely piss me off if this was exaggerated to such a higher degree like this.

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Posted by Breesus

on 5/10 at 6:38 pm to CocoLoco

FTR, I agree with you. But unless a court rules that Goodell must lessen the suspensions it ain't gonna happen. He isn't gonna touch those coaches suspensions without a lawsuit filled directly by them. The players however, we will see about

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Posted by kclsufan

on 5/10 at 7:03 pm to Breesus

That's a damn strong interview. No way a savvy lawyer like Ginsberg is going to go out on a limb with assertions of Vilma's innocence (regarding the $10k and pay to injure) unless he's certain that what he said is true. That means he's talked not only to Vilma at length, but to others involved in the situation and conducted his own investigation using his own investigators. Chances are he pretty much knows what really happened and how it got to this point--in fact he says as much.

Strategically it's also a smart move because now he puts more pressure to Rog to have to show the evidence, which is what the players have been clamoring for in the first place. If Rog does not, it makes it appear appear that Rog, in fact, must not have any real evidence and that what Ginsberg is saying is true.

At the very least, Vilma can salvage at least some of his rep in the public eye and Goodell will be damaged goods going forward. Best case is getting a drastic reduction/elimination of the suspension. At this point, I just don't see anything that Vilma did to warrant being singled out for discipline whatsoever.

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Posted by tigerpimpbot

on 5/10 at 7:35 pm to AmosMosesAndTwins

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Well, I'm sold, because attorneys always tell the truth.

Truth. It was a bountie, not a "bounty"

This post was edited on 5/10 at 7:37 pm

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Posted by sunnydaze

on 5/10 at 8:18 pm to tigerpimpbot

Typical lawyer talk

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Posted by Bayou

on 5/10 at 8:34 pm to Fun Bunch

Fun Bunch - Might you provide us a link to this? I'd like to see more.

I had a guy at work tell me today that when he saw the video replay of Hargrove coming off the field, after injuring Favre, that his yelling, "Show me my money!" was enough for him to feel the Saints are guilty!!!

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