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re: Why is there no "great" music anymore?
Posted by RandyVandy on 5/3 at 5:14 pm to el Gaucho
This is all totally relative. I couldn't give 2 fricks if led Zeppelin (or however you [mis]spell their name) or Simon and Garfunkel had never existed.

How do you think people that listened to Beethoven or Vivaldi or Erik Satie play their own compositions live would feel about the music of the 60's (or 70's, or any other era)?



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Posted by Projectpat on 5/3 at 5:17 pm to el Gaucho
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are you trying to tell me project pat is better than led zeppelin?


To me, yes. That's exactly what I'm trying to tell you. Art is a relative OPINION. It's like arguing that it's a FACT that blue is the best color.



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Posted by dukke v on 5/3 at 5:42 pm to Projectpat
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To me, yes. That's exactly what I'm trying to tell you. Art is a relative OPINION. It's like arguing that it's a FACT that blue is the best color.



Everyone has an opinion on MUSIC. It depends on how old you are. And when and where you grow up. IMO the music from the late 60's and into the early 80's is the best I have ever listened to. I am NOT impressed with the ROCK from the 90's and the 2000's. They FOLLOWED the greats. Think about it. There is NO band today that could make a SONG like "DREAM ON" and it have the impact that IT had.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 5/3 at 5:57 pm to dukke v
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FOLLOWED the greats. Think about it. There is NO band today that could make a SONG like "DREAM ON" and it have the impact that IT had.



No they couldn't but the the reason is sociological more than musical. There are Plenty of songs just as good but not as impact full because of the modern landscape of music



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Posted by jose canseco on 5/3 at 6:02 pm to el Gaucho
there is great music today. Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes and Gary Clark Jr are all producing great music today.

it appears some people just don't care for new music



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Posted by corndeaux on 5/3 at 6:12 pm to el Gaucho
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you can learn whatever instrument easily on the internet


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basically had to teach themselves to play


Isn't this the same thing? Still takes practice, even if the internet is your teacher.




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Posted by T1gerWonder on 5/3 at 6:44 pm to CottonWasKing
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Plenty of songs just as good but not as impact full because of the modern landscape of music

Ok. New question: How many songs from the past 10 or so years, will be remembered in 30 years from now?



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Posted by Playground Menace on 5/3 at 7:02 pm to el Gaucho
Give me Motown any day of the week.


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Posted by dukke v on 5/3 at 8:03 pm to T1gerWonder
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How many songs from the past 10 or so years, will be remembered in 30 years from now?






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Posted by hubris on 5/3 at 8:40 pm to T1gerWonder
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Ok. New question: How many songs from the past 10 or so years, will be remembered in 30 years from now?

Remembered by who? There are plenty of great bands and great songs worthy of remembering, but they won't be remembered widely because of the points touched on already. Good music is not synonymous with mass appeal these days.

Try and wrap your head around this: popularity has no bearing on the quality of the music.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 5/3 at 9:13 pm to hubris
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Remembered by who? There are plenty of great bands and great songs worthy of remembering, but they won't be remembered widely because of the points touched on already. Good music is not synonymous with mass appeal these days.

Try and wrap your head around this: popularity has no bearing on the quality of the music.


This.


I can think of hundreds of songs that I will remember in 30 years. I'm sure you can think of hundreds of different songs.

Thats exactly what I was trying to say. The landscape of music has changed to the point that peoples musical tastes are so refined that we will never see another Zeppelin, Beatles, Stones etc because the days of widespread popularity being focused on one or two bands is over. That doesn't mean the music is any worse.

Like I said. That is a sociological issue not a musical one.



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Posted by Dandy Lion on 5/3 at 9:16 pm to CottonWasKing
The fact that there are new versions of The Monkees spawned just about daily, doesn't help.

Plus, The Monkees had a modicum of talent.



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Posted by Draconian Sanctions on 5/3 at 9:19 pm to T1gerWonder
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How many songs from the past 10 or so years, will be remembered in 30 years from now?


a lot



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Posted by Dandy Lion on 5/3 at 9:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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How many songs from the past 10 or so years, will be remembered in 30 years from now?

Remembered, alot.
Respected, oh that's a tough one.
Revered, the lowest of single digits methinks.



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Posted by Breesus on 5/3 at 10:15 pm to el Gaucho
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Why is there no "great" music anymore?


There is, you just have to look for it. Or go to music festivals.

Off the top of my head:

Black Keys
Jack White/ The White Stripes
RHCP
My Morning Jacket
Back Door Slam
Foo Fighters
The Flaming lips
Joe Bonamassa
Muse




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Posted by CottonWasKing on 5/4 at 7:02 am to Breesus
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Back Door Slam




No one seems to know about the badassery that is Davey knowles and back door slam



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Posted by Breesus on 5/4 at 7:13 am to CottonWasKing
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No one seems to know about the badassery that is Davey knowles and back door slam



Nope. They are amazing. Its because the next generation of people dont like what we consider "great music." Its out there, you just have to find it.



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Posted by SUB on 5/4 at 8:18 am to CottonWasKing
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Back Door Slam


They just sound like a rehash of generic classic rock. They are definitely talented and play well together, but it just isn't for me.



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Posted by upgrade on 5/4 at 8:24 am to el Gaucho
It's nothing more than a matter of opinion.
I completely understand where you are coming from with this.
In my opinion, 90's music is easily my favorite. It just has a certain sound that works for me. Maybe because it's what I grew up on.
This goes for rock or country (I'm a fan of both). I do realy like and appreciate older forms of each, but not as much. There are some newer songs now and then, that catch my attention, but for the most part, I can't even understand how anyone likes most of the music being made that takes up the airwaves of radio. Thats just my opinion.
To me melody seems to have taken a backseat (or even thrown out all together) to shock lyrics in much of rock music. Songs like Bad Girlfriend and Crazy Bitch and such, rely on young ears that don't have an appreciation for a good sound. But they get requested every day by someone. I don't care too much about the lyrics in music. If the song speaks a good message, great, but to me it should sound good first.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 5/4 at 8:36 am to upgrade
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can't even understand how anyone likes most of the music being made that takes up the airwaves of radio. Thats just my opinion.



No one here is talking about radio music



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