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re: Humans: Inherently Good or Inherently Evil?

Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:29 am to
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If only there was a book that we could use as a guide.


Look I am a catholic but acting like the Bible is a straight forward life guide is silly. I agree with the morals Jesus teaches us but if someone tried to use the Bible as a guide 100% word for word they would think that we should stone adulterous women to death.
Posted by LSUfan4444
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:46 am to
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we should stone adulterous women to death.


Is that what you take away from that passage? That it should be disregarded because it discusses principles that were normalized thousands of years ago?

OR should you interpret the same passage very very differently. That he is without sin cast the first stone. Meaning, only the sinless should criticize the sinner for their actions and behavior. Only Jesus was without sin and he did not condemn the sinner so the "guide" is to condemn others sinners less not to stone adulterers.

I am not totally understanding what your point is but the bible offers many instances of good and evil, sin vs riotousness and has different passages on your very question where theologians have even further explained some scriptures where it is believe Jesus actually used rhetoric in his teachings. Mark 10:17-22 is a good example of this IMO. Here, the point many believe is that "good" is more about following him, leaving earthly possessions and wealth behind.

The only way to heaven is through grace. It cannot be earned. It cannot be achieved. Eternal life is given, by choice, from God because we are born in his image that is an image of goodness and love.

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17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[a]”

20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”

21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.






Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:16 am to
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but if someone tried to use the Bible as a guide 100% word for word they would think that we should stone adulterous women to death.



So long as the person without sin casts the first stone. You did read the 2nd half of the book...right?
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