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Zelensky feels betrayed by his Western allies.

Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:11 am
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:11 am


TIME

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Public support for aid to Ukraine has been in decline for months in the U.S., and Zelensky’s visit did nothing to revive it. Some 41% of Americans want Congress to provide more weapons to Kyiv, down from 65% in June
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In some branches of the military, the shortage of personnel has become even more dire than the deficit in arms and ammunition. One of Zelensky’s close aides tells me that even if the U.S. and its allies come through with all the weapons they have pledged, “we don’t have the men to use them.” 
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Since the start of the invasion, Ukraine has refused to release official counts of dead and wounded. But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky


He should be forced into recognizing he is not going to win this war, and our government needs to just stop. Force negotiations. Zalenski needs to clean up the mess and lick his wounds. Putin has shown restraint. Just move on.

Posted by thermal9221
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:11 am to
Zalensky gonna die soon.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:12 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:13 am to

He should have known that time was never on his side.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:13 am to
I thought Zelensky was winning big? Why does he need more money?

The OT war thread is comparing Z to Churchill
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 8:16 am
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:14 am to
Bibi vs Hamas really ganked Zelensky’s thunder.
Posted by Ribbed
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:15 am to
I like when third rate East European dictators lecture me as a fund raising pitch.
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:16 am to
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Zelensky was winning big?


Zelensky and big should never be in the same sentence unless discussing fraud
Posted by Captain Poopie Pants
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Member since Jun 2020
466 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:21 am to
I’m not his ally. I never would have given him billions of our money to launder.

Tell track suit boy to get fricked.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22127 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:22 am to
Screw him. We've already given him more than enough aid. It's time for him to take an L and go into exile.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:32 am to
I really don't give a shite what Zelensky "feels".
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:36 am to
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He should be forced into recognizing he is not going to win this war, and our government needs to just stop.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
45361 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:37 am to
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Zalensky gonna die soon.


Nah. He’s going to end up in DC or London.

We’re not going to let the Nazis or Russians have him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:39 am to
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Nah. He’s going to end up in DC or London.


Seems a solid choice for the antichrist.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:43 am to
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Since the start of the invasion, Ukraine has refused to release official counts of dead and wounded. But according to U.S. and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war. It has eroded the ranks of Ukraine’s armed forces so badly that draft offices have been forced to call up ever older personnel, raising the average age of a soldier in Ukraine to around 43 years. “They’re grown men now, and they aren’t that healthy to begin with,” says the close aide to Zelensky


They are also "drafting" females now. This entire proxy war has been a very bad mistake since the beginning. The reason Putin hasn't marched further into Ukraine is because he doesn't want it. If he did, it would be under Russia control.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:43 am to
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I thought Zelensky was winning big? Why does he need more money?


For when he flees the country and needs his nest egg to survive.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
45361 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:45 am to


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his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia has hardened into a form that worries some of his advisers. It is immovable, verging on the messianic. “He deludes himself,” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that.”





Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79324 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:47 am to
The more this goes on, I'm team Putin on this.

Z is a grifter tPOS and hope he has a coup on his hands soon. Frick him.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
646 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:51 am to
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The reason Putin hasn't marched further into Ukraine is because he doesn't want it. If he did, it would be under Russia control.


The reason is he's fighting a modern war with Cold War weaponry. Russia isn't the bear we thought they were. They are a cub with nukes.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
6074 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:00 am to
Maybe if everyone puts the Ukrainian flag back in their social media avatars, the war can be won.
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