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re: Would someone please explain the crimes Trump committed?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:43 am to BBONDS25
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:43 am to BBONDS25
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Are you not aware of the judgment Trump got against Stormy? You fricking ignorant twat.
Yes because Stormy broke the NDA and told the truth of what actually happened.
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:43 am to rebeloke
They can explain only what the partisan DA’s have charged him with.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trump worked directly with Cohen, allegedly on this, so while there will be credibility disputes, Cohen can testify directly about this.
I’m not really following the trial because is all BS, but, some headlines have stated Pecker’s statement refuted this?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:44 am to deathvalleytiger10
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I’m not really following the trial because is all BS, but, some headlines have stated Pecker’s statement refuted this?
There is a thread about it.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:46 am to ronricks
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Tell us more about how Wisconsin ruling voided the 2020 election and removed Biden and inserted Trump as President.
sorry I embarrassed you and exposed your ignorance to the court rulings. You are a joke. Literally the dumbest poster here. That is impressive. 
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Instead of paying his attorney (or women) directly with a set payment, he had his attorney make payments. Then the attorney sent invoices to Trump for random amounts as a retainer fee. This was all done to disguise the payments from the company to the women (for plausible deniability, presumably).
The wacky NY records law has an expansive view of fraudulent business records, and the allegation is that the obfuscations I posted above was fraud, per the statute.
all of which is not a crime, and you left out the statute of limitations has expired, and the DOJ chose not to charge. Remember these entries into accounting happened in 2017, now when was the election?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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The wacky NY records law has an expansive view of fraudulent business records, and the allegation is that the obfuscations I posted above was fraud, per the statute.
Real estate value estimates are far too subjective for this application and every one knows it. Prosecute everyone who ever filled out a financial disclosure with a bank.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:48 am to BBONDS25
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ignorance
The court rulings which did absolutely nothing and did not prove 'fraud' 'cheating' 'rigged' or any other word you people come up with to try and make excuses for Trump's embarrassing loss.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:49 am to ronricks
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Yes because Stormy broke the NDA and told the truth of what actually happened.
Again, since you seem to be incapable of any comprehension whatsoever, he's not on trial for having an affair or paying her to shut up. You at least understand that, right? It seems like you don't.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:53 am to MightyYat
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he's not on trial for having an affair or paying her to shut up. You at least understand that, right? It seems like you don't.
Oh I completely understand that. We have people on here that deny that even happened though. NDA's are perfectly legal. Trump attorney made that very clear this week. What I am still trying to understand is why we have Trumpers on here that deny that Trump paid Stormy. That phenomenon exists and it is downright delusional. The source of the funds and how they were paid is the issue. Again, if Trump never met Stormy he wouldn't be in this situation. You at least understand that, right?
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can defraud the records of your corporation, which is the alleged crime.
Sure, except Pecker testified both under direct and cross that what McDougall was paid for exceeded what value she provided to AMI, namely writing articles.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:54 am to BBONDS25
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Reconcile trump telling cohen to do everything on the up and up and the FEC and DOJ declining to prosecute with the crimes alleges by the NY attorney.
The part of the statute that enhances the crime from a misdemeanor to a felony doesn't require the person who committed the initial crime to have committed the subsequent crime that enhances the crime from a misdemeanor to a felony. The prosecutor can also prove that the falsification of business records was done to aid or conceal the commission of another crime.
Note, the statute says nothing about there being a requirement that the person being charged with falsifying records has to have actually committed the subsequent crime (in this case the FEC violations, for which Cohen has already pled guilty and served time in prison).
The theory of the case is that business records were falsified, and that the underlying falsification of those business records was done with either an intent to (1) commit another crime or (2) aid or conceal the commission thereof. I'm thinking Bragg's theory is going to rely more on aiding or concealing the commission of Cohen's crimes.
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:54 am to ronricks
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The court rulings which did absolutely nothing and did not prove 'fraud' 'cheating' 'rigged' or any other word you people come up with to try and make excuses for Trump's embarrassing loss.
You are going to look like an even bigger idiot than you already are when Biden gets about 60 mil votes and the only explanation will be, because there wasn't mass mail out ballots that Dem operatives could collect.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:55 am to ninthward
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all of which is not a crime
that's for the jury to decide
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and you left out the statute of limitations has expired,
I have not
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and the DOJ chose not to charge.
That was strictly a federal campaign finance violation issue
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:56 am to ronricks
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and told the truth
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:57 am to Lg
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when Biden gets about 60 mil votes
Yes, without mail in voting Biden doesn't get 81 million and Trump doesn't get 74.x million. Who is denying that?
They both benefited from mail in voting where even the laziest of Americans could vote from their couch essentially.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:57 am to momentoftruth87
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That’s why SFP is a believer
I know you all hate SFP but he has said, in this thread, that this case is low on the power rankings of cases against him. People are allowed to have different opinions of Trump and his legal issues without having TDS or being a leftist. Jesus.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:59 am to Lg
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because there wasn't mass mail out ballots that Dem operatives could collect.
BTW - ballot harvesting is legal in some form in around 25 states.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:59 am to ronricks
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The court rulings which did absolutely nothing and did not prove 'fraud' 'cheating' 'rigged' or any other word you people come up with to try and make excuses for Trump's embarrassing loss.
Notice you left out “illegal” votes. You dumb idiot.
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:00 pm to ronricks
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Oh I completely understand that. We have people on here that deny that even happened though. NDA's are perfectly legal. Trump attorney made that very clear this week. What I am still trying to understand is why we have Trumpers on here that deny that Trump paid Stormy. That phenomenon exists and it is downright delusional. The source of the funds and how they were paid is the issue. Again, if Trump never met Stormy he wouldn't be in this situation. You at least understand that, right?
Completely irrelevant to the trial. You are so dumb.
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