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Why did Democrats vote to rescue House Speaker Mike Johnson? MSNBC answers the question.

Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30921 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am
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So why in the world did so many Democrats, including every member of the party’s leadership team, throw him a life-preserver instead of an anvil? Why didn’t they simply do what they did with McCarthy and let the GOP majority deal once again with the consequences of their self-imposed chaos?


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Part of this is the result of Democrats wanting to present themselves to the public as the mature party — the “adults in the room” — that can be counted on to be responsible with the institution's interests. The party has also come to realize that in a narrowly divided chamber, Johnson has repeatedly turned to Democrats to govern in recent months — most notably on U.S. aid to Ukraine — and the party has come to feel a degree of comfort with the status quo.

But a recent Wall Street Journal report touched on the most important element of all:

For some Democrats, the gesture goes beyond a reward for Ukraine aid. They think Johnson is preferable to whichever other Republican might get the job instead.

It's difficult to overstate how important this was, and is, to the party. When coming to terms with why progressive Democrats would rescue the most far-right House speaker in modern times, the phrase “better the devil you know than the devil you don’t” is worth keeping in mind.

Members of the House minority party are well aware of the fact that they could’ve taken down Johnson, but these same Democrats had every reason to believe that the House speaker’s successor would very likely be worse: a Republican who wouldn’t turn to them on must-pass legislation and who wouldn’t mind if Russia took part of eastern Europe by force.

Democrats see Johnson as a radical Republican election denier with an even temperament, who hasn’t lied to them, who hasn’t broken any deals with them and who listened to reason on aid to Ukraine.

That’s not much, but for 163 members of the House Democratic minority, it was enough.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/democrats-vote-rescue-house-speaker-mike-johnson-rcna151426
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:33 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108842 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:29 am to
Because if Hakeem Jeffries then becomes Speaker, then the Squad will use the same process to destroy him.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10533 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:30 am to
Pathetic
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21394 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:31 am to
To try and keep the government moving? I realize a functioning government is a radical idea in Washington but changing House Speakers a couple of times a year isn’t good for anything
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27182 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:31 am to
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Why did Democrats vote to rescue House Speaker Mike Johnson?


Well, when Republicans are doing your bidding, why would you want to be in charge and therefore receive the blame?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49679 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:32 am to
Why ignore the fact only 11 republicans wanted him out?

The dems "saved" him from a tiny minority of the republican party.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3118 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:33 am to
I am just ready for the civil war, revolution or both. Our country is going to shite and being sold out for BS that wont matter in the future because we wont have a country left and the politicians cant see it. All they care about is the greed of today as they sign theirs and our death sentences for tomorrow.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30921 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:34 am to
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Why ignore the fact only 11 republicans wanted him out?

The dems "saved" him from a tiny minority of the republican party.


He had more defectors than McCarthy had his first round.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11673 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:35 am to
One reason and one reason only.. MONEY....

He got the Ukraine bill passed and that puts money in a lot of politicians pocket...
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
3522 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:35 am to
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To try and keep the government moving?


Correct, but now let's be intellectually honest about what that really means
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49679 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:36 am to
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He had more defectors than McCarthy had his first round.


So?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37553 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:37 am to
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but changing House Speakers a couple of times a year isn’t good for anything


Says who? You? You’re an idiot though!
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71311 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:41 am to
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Because if Hakeem Jeffries then becomes Speaker, then the Squad will use the same process to destroy him.


The Fraud Squad is a bunch of cucks. They do whatever the DNC tells them.

They didn't even Force The Vote but they did strategize their votes to fund the Capitol Police without any of them voting for it.

Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1632 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:41 am to
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Says who? You?


Says anyone with more than 3 brain cells rattling around their skull.

Explain to the class how constantly changing leadership multiple times in one congressional session does America any good?
Posted by TigersBucs
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
1555 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:43 am to
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but changing House Speakers a couple of times a year isn’t good for anything


The Republicans and the far right wing do not believe in governing. They only believe in disruption.

They do not care about anything else.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18053 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:45 am to
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Why ignore the fact only 11 republicans wanted him out?


That is more than enough to get the job done if dems voted same as last time.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108842 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:45 am to
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The Fraud Squad is a bunch of cucks. They do whatever the DNC tells them.

They didn't even Force The Vote but they did strategize their votes to fund the Capitol Police without any of them voting for it.


I mean I agree, but I can see Rashida Talib starting some bullshite over “Free Free Palestine!”
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18053 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:47 am to
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The Republicans and the far right wing do not believe in governing. They only believe in disruption.

They do not care about anything else.


Given what the current govt is doing to the people, that sounds like the best course of immediate action.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
7354 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:51 am to
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who listened to reason


This some feel good bullshite right here. No different from care for your fellow American and get vaccinated, it's not a question, it's the responsible thing to do.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27663 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:00 pm to
It's all about the spectacle and so they get their time on Fox News. MTG. Crain,etc are not interested in governing.....or dealing with most legislation unless it is high profile that gets them on TV.

It really does not take much for Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats to seem like the adults in the room.
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