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Who was the alleged " victim " in the Trump ledger entry

Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10414 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:34 pm
Assuming Trump mislabeled an expense, deliberately or on advice from his lawyer or for whatever reason, isn't this Trump's own business journal
What crime was he covering as the agreement with Stormy was perfectly legal? Who was he hiding the correct entry from?

It appears any self employed businessman can manage his books any way he pleases as long as he is not violating a tax law upon filing. For instance if a company owner ordered shirts with company logos for all 200 of his employees and recorded them as promotional items rather than uniforms he would not be subject to prosecution. How is this not the same thing Trump did?

Looking for the board's attorneys to weigh in and explain.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5976 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:48 pm to
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Who was the alleged " victim " in the Trump ledger entry


Nullem Crimen is Latin for No Crime.

But I am not an attorney.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18420 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

It appears any self employed businessman can manage his books any way he pleases as long as he is not violating a tax law upon filing. For instance if a company owner ordered shirts with company logos for all 200 of his employees and recorded them as promotional items rather than uniforms he would not be subject to prosecution. How is this not the same thing Trump did?



99.9% of business do this kind of stuff everyday.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
1036 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:23 pm to
Their argument is of this story came out Trump would have lost the election.

The man who

Was caught saying grab them by the pussy
Had 50 women say he SA them
Was said to be supported by White supremacist


Would have lost the election for consensual sex and cheating on his wife


When he was known for the past 45 years for being a womanizer but this one would of did according to NY
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2452 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:24 pm to
Yep. And the other .01% haven't learned how to keep books yet
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
3594 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:31 pm to
Clearly it was democracy.
Posted by masoncj
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2023
288 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:42 pm to
Well in the state of NY he did lose the election so what is Braggs point ?

Not that even matters as it’s not against the law

None the less Bragg has zero law authority over federal elections
Posted by HoopsAurora
Member since Apr 2024
125 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:01 pm to
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Who was the alleged " victim " in the Trump ledger entry?


Democrat egos.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5263 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

Assuming Trump mislabeled an expense, deliberately or on advice from his lawyer or for whatever reason, isn't this Trump's own business journal
What crime was he covering as the agreement with Stormy was perfectly legal? Who was he hiding the correct entry from?

That isn't even the important question. The statue of limitations have expired on that. The question is what underlining crime is he being charged with that turns an expired misdemeanor into a felony? We are in week three of a criminal trial and the prosecutors have refused to identify what law or statute he is being accused of violating.

How do you not petition scotus at this point for an
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15833 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:17 pm to
My thought was they were claiming some sort of FEC violation based on the indirect payment to Daniels from Cohen that was later repaid to Cohen from Trump, but if they haven’t cited the code or violation, that’s a problem.

I’ve tried keeping up with it, but they keep changing their reporting or moving the goalposts so much that I can’t.

For the record, it’s a witch-hunt.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124272 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:23 pm to
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claiming some sort of FEC violation
Translation: A state trying a Federal crime in a case which the responsible Federal agency refused to bring.

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 11:37 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10414 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

That isn't even the important question. The statue of limitations have expired on that. The question is what underlining crime is he being charged with that turns an expired misdemeanor into a felony? We are in week three of a criminal trial and the prosecutors have refused to identify what law or statute he is being accused of violating.

How do you not petition scotus at this point for an


Regardless of his Trump's reason for paying Stormy he paid with his own funds, therefore there was no misappropriation of campaign finances.

So the only other avenue to pursue might be an obligation to report any and all payments made in conjunction with the campaign, no matter the source nor to whom the payment was made. Which then requires the jury to infer whether the only motive was to avoid political harm rather than to protect his family. They are both valid goals and regardless of what one wants to believe the tie goes to the runner.

The other question is does Trump get shielded by the fact he was acting on the advice of his attorney who created the plan and put it into motion, elected to make payment by taking a home equity loan on his own property and paying out of his own check book. ( Tiger fans, Cohen was Will Wade like on that one)
Posted by Paytonisablowhard
Member since Feb 2024
223 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:33 pm to
The only victim I've heard about in bidens campaign to trash Trump is..... Drum roll, Ashley Biden getting molested in the shower by dear old dad.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10993 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:44 am to
quote:

The question is what underlining crime is he being charged with that turns an expired misdemeanor into a felony? We are in week three of a criminal trial and the prosecutors have refused to identify what law or statute he is being accused of violating.
I have yet to see this answered by any of our resident expert lawyers. Should be a layup for them
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5732 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:52 am to
Why, don’t you know it’s a crime to limit the reach of someone’s lies about you when you’re running for president as a republican? If anyone wants to lie and claim you slept with them to damage your family and campaign, you have to let the whole world know that you are trying to prevent those lies from being made public.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:55 am to
Classic Trump. Throws down a rake and steps right on it.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58249 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:58 am to
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Assuming Trump mislabeled an expense,



I’m pretty sure Trump didn’t mislabel anything. If anyone mislabeled anything, it was Cohen.
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4797 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:00 am to
You mean the Trump hush money trial?
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And this number still isn't more than every headline over the past few weeks. H'mmm.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101727 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:01 am to
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Assuming Trump mislabeled an expense


You think he completes his daily accounting ledger before or after dinner?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6748 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:07 am to
Shut it up butterfly.....

Clinton did far worst than your claims. He was caught red handed ......

Disbarred in the end.

By the way ....I knew members of his Arkansas Security Team ...
Scum of the earth, like a good part of his trailer park fan club ......Good to see you a member in good standing .....
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