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re: Unionization efforts hit the wall in the Heart of Dixie
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:48 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:48 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
How did unionization work out for Detroit?
Been to that city, lately?
Here are some facts about unions
1) they are a monopoly
2) they have a racist history
3) they are anti-consumer, and often fight to restrict the number of workers entering a field, to keep wages high
4) they are anti-freedom (i.e they oppose workers being allowed to opt out of union dues)
5) their one decent use - worker safety - is already encoded in law now, making this obsolete
Been to that city, lately?
Here are some facts about unions
1) they are a monopoly
2) they have a racist history
3) they are anti-consumer, and often fight to restrict the number of workers entering a field, to keep wages high
4) they are anti-freedom (i.e they oppose workers being allowed to opt out of union dues)
5) their one decent use - worker safety - is already encoded in law now, making this obsolete
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:31 am to tarzana
quote:Look moron, it’s really fisking simple, can you unstop your ears and listen?
This makes not even a wisp of common sense, or fairness. Why shouldn't workers be able to form unions, to negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements, hours and overall working conditions?
They just demonstrated you ARE free to do so. You are equally free not to be morons and NOT want one.
quote:That a union gives them nothing they don’t already have and eliminates their choices.
What is the state of Alabama thinking nowadays?
Freedom is a wonderful thing, you hate it so much i can’t understand why you don’t move to China and experience the things you want forced on everyone else.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:15 am to hansenthered1
FRICK THE UNIONS
MAJOR PROBLEM WITH OUR FUNDAMENTAL ISUES IN RHJA COUNTRY!
Unions and lawyers fricked us all, prove me wrong you entities pricks! You made your bed and only thing is that you made all our beds and sold us down the river you punks, so for that, GFY
MAJOR PROBLEM WITH OUR FUNDAMENTAL ISUES IN RHJA COUNTRY!
Unions and lawyers fricked us all, prove me wrong you entities pricks! You made your bed and only thing is that you made all our beds and sold us down the river you punks, so for that, GFY
Posted on 5/18/24 at 2:35 am to tarzana
quote:The workers decided they don’t want the union. Take it up with them.
This makes not even a wisp of common sense, or fairness. Why shouldn't workers be able to form unions, to negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements, hours and overall working conditions? What is the state of Alabama thinking nowadays?
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:05 am to dkreller
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Wages are negotiated during the interview/hiring process like every other job on earth
Benefits are no guarantee for any job on earth
Safety, hours, and working conditions are covered by OSHA
Why are auto workers so special?
Auto workers(and union workers in general) are so special(as you say) because they negotiate as a group, which automatically gives them more negotiating power than a single worker who has relatively little negotiating power.
It’s fine if you are anti-union(I generally am, too) but I never understand why you guys can’t just accept that group-bargaining results in better wages/benefits…it’s statistically proven at this point in time.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:40 am to tarzana
quote:Yo, numb nuts. They were able and voted against it. They seem to be happy with their collective bargaining without adding a layer of union dues to do their bidding. A good way to force Mercedes to Mexico with unionization.
Why shouldn't workers be able to form unions, to negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:58 am to tarzana
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Why shouldn't workers be able to form unions, to negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements, hours and overall working conditions
Because if you're an ambitious guy, youre fricking yourself in a union.
Unions protect those who would otherwise be at McDonald's.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 5:59 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:40 am to tarzana
quote:
This makes not even a wisp of common sense, or fairness. Why shouldn't workers be able to form unions, to negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements, hours and overall working conditions?
quote:
The workers at the plant in Vance, Alabama, and a nearby battery facility voted 2,642 to 2,045 against joining the UAW, according to the U.S. National Labor Relations Board, which oversaw the vote. The vote still need to be certified. Read Newsmax: UAW Loses Unionization Vote at Ala. Mercedes Factory | Newsmax.com Important: Find Your Real Retirement Date in Minutes! More Info Here
Why do you hate democracy?
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:47 am to Drizzt
Lots of Yankees moving south following these auto jobs and they love unions.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:59 am to tarzana
Hint ......move your butt to Detroit .....
Mercedes takes care of those guys .....
Mercedes takes care of those guys .....
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:07 am to tarzana
Business and capital tend to take the path of least resistance.
That is why auto plants started opening in the south. To get away from the smothering resistance that comes with unionized workforces. They create unsustainable economic burdens for business with outrageous wage and benefit requirements and constant bickering, creating undue negotiating burdens for business.
Consequently, business’ move to states or countries that provide less resistance. That creates the exact opposite effect that the unions want- un employment.
Unions are unnecessary.
There are enough federal and state regulations today to give workers rights and provide safe workplaces. There’s a minimum wage.
Unions serve to serve themselves. Unions want power. They get that by driving a wedge between the employer and the employee to try to make themselves more important.
That is why auto plants started opening in the south. To get away from the smothering resistance that comes with unionized workforces. They create unsustainable economic burdens for business with outrageous wage and benefit requirements and constant bickering, creating undue negotiating burdens for business.
Consequently, business’ move to states or countries that provide less resistance. That creates the exact opposite effect that the unions want- un employment.
Unions are unnecessary.
There are enough federal and state regulations today to give workers rights and provide safe workplaces. There’s a minimum wage.
Unions serve to serve themselves. Unions want power. They get that by driving a wedge between the employer and the employee to try to make themselves more important.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:10 am to Night Vision
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Lots of Yankees moving south following these auto jobs and they love unions.
Because seniority rewards the lazy.
Democrats hate the idea of merit. They love seniority. "Its their turn."
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:19 am to tarzana
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negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements, hours and overall working conditions
This isn’t the 20’s…we have plenty of attorneys ready to sue if conditions are unsafe. And nobody’s forcing people to work there…if you don’t like the pay or benefits then quit.
WTF is wrong with you?
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:23 am to hansenthered1
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Unions are only work for Union bosses and Dem party leadership.
I'll bet we would all be shocked to know what effect the UAW has had on the price of automobiles in this country over the last 50 years.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:17 am to hansenthered1
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The UAW lost a unionization vote in Alabama today.
They will just try again next month and the month after and the month after that.
“These backwoods Alabama people don’t know what’s good for them so we are going to keep pushing them until they agree with us.”
Signed,
UAW
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:20 am to tarzana
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Why shouldn't workers be able to form unions, to negotiate wages, benefits, safety requirements, hours and overall working conditions
They absolutely can. They had an election! The vote FAILED!
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:21 am to tarzana
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tarzana
I'm not sure if you are entirely disingenous or intellectually challenenged. Either way, it's not a good look...
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:25 am to Warfox
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you guys can’t just accept that group-bargaining results in better wages/benefits
No one is saying they are against collective-bargaining! See my comment to Tarzana, and then apply to yourself
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:29 am to KiwiHead
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I guess you can be subject to the whims of the corporate overlords as an alternative.
As it should be.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:29 am to Night Vision
quote:
Lots of Yankees moving south
Because it's too damn expensive yo live up there anymore. I hope they remember to thank the UAW when they pay >$40k for a basic pickup truck
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