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Thoughts on rushed constitutional convention in La? Looks like voters don’t really want it
Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:49 am
Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:49 am
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Only 1% of voters said getting a new constitution ought to be one of the governor’s top goals, the poll showed. Seven other issues were ranked more important by voters.
While Landry is popular overall, voters give him middling marks on how he has handled the writing of a new constitution, with 27% approving and 29% disapproving.
Landry, backed by conservative megadonor Lane Grigsby, is lobbying legislators to call the convention and promoted the plan recently in a press conference and radio appearances.
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Critics have repeatedly said that Landry and the plan’s supporters are moving too quickly. They note that voters adopted the current state constitution in 1974 after a three-year process that began when Edwin Edwards ran for governor in 1971-72. Elections were then held to elect 105 delegates to the convention, one per House district. Those elected were a mixture of state legislators and people from various walks of life. The delegates spent 1973 debating and writing the constitution, and voters approved it in 1974.
Landry is taking a very different path this time.
He barely mentioned the need for a new constitution when he ran for governor last year. The measure that would convene the constitution, House Bill 800, calls for the 144 House and Senate members to serve as delegates, along with 27 mostly conservative delegates appointed by the governor, or 171 total.
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Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:56 am to 4cubbies
50 years too late is not rushed.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:58 am to 4cubbies
If there is ever to be one iota of hope of any reform in this state, the present constitution needs to be thrown into a fire.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:01 am to Wee Ice Mon
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50 years too late is not rushed.
You think two weeks is an appropriate time frame to draft and debate a new state constitution?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:01 am to TheFonz
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If there is ever to be one iota of hope of any reform in this state, the present constitution needs to be thrown into a fire.
What changes are you hoping for?
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:03 am to 4cubbies
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What changes are you hoping for?
Just eliminating dedicated funding/budget protections from every budgetary line item would be a vast improvement.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:07 am to udtiger
I wonder if that’s one of the stated objectives.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:15 am to 4cubbies
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What changes are you hoping for?
One of the biggest issues is that the present constitution limits budget cuts to the education system and public safety. Everything else - in other words, the good ol' boys network and their pet projects - are protected.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:16 am to udtiger
What’s another reason? You know, one you haven’t heard in the media.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:16 am to 4cubbies
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You think two weeks is an appropriate time frame to draft and debate a new state constitution?
Depends on the complexity. Might need more time, might need less.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:27 am to TDsngumbo
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What’s another reason? You know, one you haven’t heard in the media.
The damn thing suffocates itself under its own weight. It needs to provide a broad framework of government, and not include specific provisions. There should not be a need to have a dozen amendments to it every election. It is bloated and unwieldly.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:37 am to 4cubbies
To be fair, that was poll ranked the constitutional convention versus other priorities like public safety and economic development and education.
Those are actual goals. A constitutional convention is a means.
Those are actual goals. A constitutional convention is a means.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:46 am to 4cubbies
Dear Facebook
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:47 am to TDsngumbo
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What’s another reason? You know, one you haven’t heard in the media.
I didn't hear that one from anyone.
That's my personal wish list.
If only that comes from the constitutional convention, it will be a success in my mind
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:47 am to 4cubbies
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Seven other issues were ranked more important by voters.
The poll might be different were the question "Do you think Louisiana needs a state constitutional convention?" then a simply yes/no vote rather than a ranking of priorities.
Having a constitutional convention to remove the logjam of constitutional protections for various money has been talked about for over a decade, the only reason it seems "rushed" is because it's actually happening and that is getting news. The other option is to continue to pull money out of only education or healthcare when there are budget issues.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:57 am to 4cubbies
quote:Have you ever started a thread on here that had more upvotes than down? I suspect that's on purpose.
4cubbies
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:58 am to 4cubbies
The big government types are the ones crying about it so it’s sounding pretty good to me.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:19 am to 4cubbies
Louisiana will frick this up too. It'll be riddled with corruption.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:30 am to udtiger
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eliminating dedicated funding/budget protections from every budgetary line item would be a vast improvement.
The only thing anyone brings up is Article 7. If that’s the goal, you don’t need a convention, especially since the “delegates” are the legislators.
Step 1. File a bill to say what you want in Article 7 and what you want in statute.
Step 2. Legislators debate it during the session. Public can testify and weigh in.
Step 3. Submit it to the people for a vote.
I find it funny that most people on here don’t like/trust “the government”. But when it comes to this issue, you want to give the politicians more power when most of these items were put in the Constitution to save them from politics in the first place. It’s ironic.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:32 am to 4cubbies
No way this is rushed, this is overdue by about 15 years. There are way to many constitutionally protected set asides in the LA constitution. It needs to be cleaned out and a much larger percentage of the budget needs to be discretionary.
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