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re: ST. George WINS Incorporation is a reality!

Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:28 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:28 am to
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Who knows. I just hope my property value increases while the taxes increase.

Let me assure you that when they increase the assessed value of your property your taxes will increase.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32489 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:52 am to
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What kind of weird city is it where the white people live in the south east?

Lafayette is the same
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50166 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:56 am to
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You think those signs are there for shits and giggles?

I think that everyone who purchased or owned property with an address in Baton Rouge believed they lived in Baton Rouge.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:14 pm to
That's not how it works, sorry cubbie
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:17 pm to
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You're saying that someone who bought a house in that part of Baton Rouge 5, 10, 20, 50, 150 years ago didn't think they were moving to Baton Rouge, despite every service being provided by Baton Rouge and their addresses being in Baton Rouge?


Everyone who moved into the unincorporated areas did so KNOWING they weren't in Baton Rouge to avoid the higher taxes in the city limits.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:34 pm to
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I think that everyone who purchased or owned property with an address in Baton Rouge believed they lived in Baton Rouge.


If you ever read the back your property tax card that you get from the Parish Assessors Office you’d know if you lived in the city or if you lived outside the city because there are different tax districts.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36049 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Everyone who moved into the unincorporated areas did so KNOWING they weren't in Baton Rouge to avoid the higher taxes in the city limits.


Honestly, there isn’t much difference in taxes from BR proper to what I pay now in SG, but I expect that to change. BR is going to raise taxes.

Homeowners choose their homes depending on the neighborhood, distance to work, distance to schools, traffic, etc. Taxes are not that important.

My immediate goal for St. George is to get more control of some of the taxes I pay, and that those taxes would go to improve the quality of life in our city.

Later when we get our own school district, we will have another tool to compete for more residents and eventually SG will be a better place for everyone to live because our taxes will go to a good school district, good public safety, and a cleaner safer city.

I think we in SG can do all that and not raise taxes. We pay enough now.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Topcat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2005
453 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:57 pm to
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To people who are educated about this, yes.

To people listening to SWB, “TogetherBR”, etc? Less so.


Hence the understandable desire for separate government.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98856 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:33 pm to
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I think


I'm dubious of this statement.

quote:

everyone who purchased or owned property with an address in Baton Rouge believed they lived in Baton Rouge.


Lololololololol
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50166 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:52 pm to
this is the only hive I’m aware of in which its members pound their chests for counterpoints that consist of “lol ur wrong.”
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35042 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:07 pm to
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this is the only hive I’m aware of in which its members pound their chests for counterpoints that consist of “lol ur wrong.”


you’re LITERALLY wrong. I’m sorry you are a fricking retard who doesn’t understand how the post office works.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
7388 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:15 pm to
she is wrong about everything
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7836 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:17 pm to
Lakeview and Algiers finna eat
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:20 pm to
Be fair. She is part of a side that believes declaring yourself a woman means you are a woman even if you still have a cock.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6776 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:22 pm to
If you'd like a citation for this, then here it is:
LA Rev Stat § 17:67 (2022) ETA Link for the Cubbies the Loser

quote:

F. The Southeast Baton Rouge Community School Board shall begin actual operation of providing for the education of students within its jurisdiction on July first immediately following the effective date of this Act. Beginning on July first immediately following the effective date of this Act and thereafter, notwithstanding any provision of law or rule or regulation to the contrary and pursuant to the duty and responsibility placed with the legislature by Article VIII, Section 1 of the Constitution of Louisiana to establish and maintain a public educational system and the authority granted the legislature by Article VIII, Section 10(A) of the Constitution of Louisiana to enact laws affecting parish school board systems in existence on the effective date of the constitution, all lands, buildings, improvements, facilities, and other property having title vested in the public and subject to management, administration, and control by the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board for public education purposes located within the geographic boundaries of the Southeast Baton Rouge Community School System or used to provide student transportation services to such facilities, or both, shall be transferred to, managed, administered, and controlled by the Southeast Baton Rouge Community School Board.

G. The East Baton Rouge Parish School System shall transfer ownership of at least fifty school buses, each with at least sixty-passenger capacity that are of equal quality, age, and condition to the fleet owned and operated by the East Baton Rouge Parish School System to the Southeast Baton Rouge Community School System, including a sufficient number of accessible buses to be used to transport the students needing special transportation services.



Precedent:
Central School system - Same
LA Rev Stat § 17:66 (2022)
Zachary School system - Same
LA Rev Stat § 17:64 (2022)
Baker School system - Same
LA Rev Stat § 17:72 (2022)

Once again, You Are Wrong
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2593 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:47 pm to
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I get this but if EBR or EBRPSS built the schools for EBRPSS, it doesn’t seem like they would immediately transfer to SGPSS (once formed). But I’m not an expert either.



Well, we can probably agree that the courts will likely decide. For fun, here is what chatGPT said


quote:

When a new school district is created from an area previously served by another district, the distribution of assets such as school buildings typically follows specific state laws and local agreements. Here are the general approaches that might be taken:

- Transfer of Ownership: The school buildings might be transferred from the old district to the new one. This can be done through legislative action or through an agreement between the existing district and the newly formed district.

- Sale or Lease: The existing district may sell or lease the buildings to the new district. This arrangement would likely be part of a negotiated agreement that includes terms favorable to both parties, potentially influenced by the needs of the community and the financial conditions of both districts.

- NOT HAPPENING --> Shared Use: In some cases, the districts might agree to shared use of the facilities, especially if the separation is amicable and the logistics support such an arrangement.

The exact method depends on state laws, the specifics of the local situation, and the agreements reached by the involved parties. These processes often involve significant negotiation and legal considerations, especially regarding equitable access to educational resources for all affected students.


tldr: state law dictates this.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 2:48 pm
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103735 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:52 pm to
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I think that everyone who purchased or owned property with an address in Baton Rouge believed they lived in Baton Rouge.
I grew up with an address that said Pass Christian, Miss. Pass Christian was in a different county than where I lived. It was 30 minutes away, at best.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:57 pm to
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If St. George is allowed to form its own school district, then it's going to be interesting to see what happens when the legacy costs that the EBR school system is currently paying are offloaded on the new St. George School district. It's one of the reasons why taxes are so high in Zachary.

EBR got stuck with the legacy costs of Baker, Zachary, and Central. They are still funding those costs by the way.

Zachary’s taxes are so high because the people of Zachary decided they wanted to pay more for public schools after the breakaway than they were before. That was their choice, and they seem happy with their choice. Central also raised their taxes as well, and they seem happy. Baker didn’t raise the millage rates and they have been in financial difficulty ever since. Logically, you have to assume if St. George breaks away millage rates will go up, voters should educate themselves and just be aware of that when the time comes to vote.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98856 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:56 pm to
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Logically, you have to assume if St. George breaks away millage rates will go up, voters should educate themselves and just be aware of that when the time comes to vote.


Assuming property values increase because of the new city, that would mean more revenue even if millages remain the same.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50166 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:55 pm to
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I grew up with an address that said Pass Christian, Miss. Pass Christian was in a different county than where I lived. It was 30 minutes away, at best.


Is St. George in a different parish 30 minutes away from Baton Rouge? I don’t really see the relevance.

I also grew up in an unincorporated village. We used the name of that unincorporated village on mail. in fact, the whole parish is unincorporated and there are multiple towns with names in that parish that have addresses with the name of the town and receive mail.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 6:06 am
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