re: SCOTUS isn’t going to mess with immunity

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It says "but the party convicted" right in the section you posted.

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And?

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but not before Congress decides on removal.

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Where does it say this?

Call your shot on the ruling.

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Exactly. Manufacturing this impeachment-acquittal as a required step for criminal prosecution would be the biggest legislation from the bench and invention of Constitutional law since Roe v Wade.

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Meh it's severely poorly worded if your interpretation was the intent. Is there any contemporary discussions we can use to establish intent?

I realize your "attorney" schtick is to appear more knowledgeable about the law and the constitution than the rest of us but when you start spewing your non-stop word salad comments like you have in this thread you honestly just come across as a nerd.

FYI, yes, it is, Kamala.

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It says nothing about acquittal, which means the amendment was adopted with the framework of advising that acquittal or conviction of impeachment by Congress and the Senate have no bearing on a subsequent criminal prosecution after the impeachment process has concluded.

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Ignore the "party convicted" wording all you want. If a politician doesn't first have to be removed from office to lose immunity they wouldn't have included the "convicted party" wording. But you have esq in your username so it's safe to say you're an intellectually dishonest dumbass.

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What should happen is that a limited immunity for executive action is established, and it's sent back to the trial court for determinations on that issue (which would lead to another track back to the USSC).

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Limited immunity? Who decides? This would open an enormous can of worms. A president performs thousands of actions while in office. Whose gonna write the immunity laws?

The term we will hear is “ outer perimeter “ stemming from the language of the Nixon case. That will be the defacto determinant that responsible ( in other words not Democrats and other Stalinist) prosecutors will first have to determine.

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Is there any contemporary discussions we can use to establish intent?

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LINK

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The Senate’s power to convict and remove individuals from office, as well as to bar them from holding office in the future, does not overlap with criminal remedies for misconduct. Indeed, the unique nature of impeachment as a political remedy distinct from criminal proceedings ensures that the most powerful magistrates should be amenable to the law. 10 Rather than serving to police violations of strictly criminal activity, impeachment is a method of national inquest into the conduct of public men for the abuse or violation of some public trust. 11 Impeachable offenses are those that relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.12 Put another way, the purpose of impeachment is to protect the public interest, rather than impose a punitive measure on an individual. 13

10 James Wilson, Lectures on Law, reprinted in, The Works of James Wilson 425–26 (1791).

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The Senate’s power to convict and remove individuals from office, as well as to bar them from holding office in the future, does not overlap with criminal remedies for misconduct. Indeed, the unique nature of impeachment as a political remedy distinct from criminal proceedings ensures that the most powerful magistrates should be amenable to the law. 10 Rather than serving to police violations of strictly criminal activity, impeachment is a method of national inquest into the conduct of public men for the abuse or violation of some public trust. 11 Impeachable offenses are those that relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.12 Put another way, the purpose of impeachment is to protect the public interest, rather than impose a punitive measure on an individual.

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