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re: Scott Adams Nooooo!
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:25 pm to OBReb6
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:25 pm to OBReb6
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Do you not know what the word “Jew” means?
Let me ask you a question. If all these people living in modern day Israel are fake Jews and they have hijacked the name Israel, where are the real Jews, and when will those things prophesied by God in bible concerning the Jews take place?
Or maybe these fake Jews are tricking the nations of the world to treat them as the real Jews and do to them what God prophesied about the real ones?
And maybe these fake Jews were just gathered from throughout the world and made a nation again simply to trick us
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:27 pm to Revelator
Many in Israel are real jews. Many are still scattered among the nations as well. The Israeli Government is rothschild created and controlled. Almost as if satan has gathered them to be eradicated after their government pisses off the entire world.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:29 pm to Revelator
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when will those things prophesied by God in bible concerning the Jews take place?
When are your fairy tales going to come true? That's what you're asking.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:29 pm to THog
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Many in Israel are real jews. Many are still scattered among the nations as well. The Israeli Government is rothschild created and controlled.
Do you think it’s impossible for God’s will to be carried out unknowingly by reprobates such as the Rothchilds
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:34 pm to THog
The israeli government wants all the land promised by God, and a canal to ukraine/kazakhstan, astana. The Ben Gurion canal to link Israel, the nwo smart city, neom, in saudi arabia to asia.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:37 pm to Revelator
I never said they are fake Jews. That is a whole other rabbit hole. I am giving the full benefit of the doubt these people in modern Israel are 100% real Jews
There seems to be a breakdown in communication here and I don’t know why. I think it’s because you’re assuming I’m making some arguments that I’m not.
Here’s the issue and why I asked you before to show in scripture where the “Jews” were claimed to be God’s chosen people. It seems like a very relevant point since as you state it has everything to do with the current conflict.
“Jews” are an offshoot of 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Jews =/= Israel (this seems to be a big part of the misconception).
I’m arguing the blessing from God was given to Joseph and his sons Ephraim and Mannasah. These tribes went on to rule the northern kingdom of Israel while Judah broke off and created the southern kingdom of Judah. All modern Jews come from Judah
Now this is truly the question. They could have ended up in Mesopotamia, some think they ended up in various places in Europe. Wherever they went, they blended into the culture and it is impossible to know.
Since at this point I am just speculating, would it not be inconceivable in a biblical worldview that their influence, if it did in fact extend to Europe, assist in conquering the world and spearheading the enlightenment? Seems a lot more becoming of a chosen people.
I do not know though and I am not going to claim I do, or spread information along as fact. But what I do know from reading the Bible, is I have no reason to interpret specifically the Jews as the chosen people of God. Any rationalization which would lead me to that conclusion would force me to also believe the descendants of Ishmael (the Arabs) are also God’s chosen people.
There seems to be a breakdown in communication here and I don’t know why. I think it’s because you’re assuming I’m making some arguments that I’m not.
Here’s the issue and why I asked you before to show in scripture where the “Jews” were claimed to be God’s chosen people. It seems like a very relevant point since as you state it has everything to do with the current conflict.
“Jews” are an offshoot of 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Jews =/= Israel (this seems to be a big part of the misconception).
I’m arguing the blessing from God was given to Joseph and his sons Ephraim and Mannasah. These tribes went on to rule the northern kingdom of Israel while Judah broke off and created the southern kingdom of Judah. All modern Jews come from Judah
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where are the real Jews, and when will those things prophesied by God in bible concerning the Jews take place?
Now this is truly the question. They could have ended up in Mesopotamia, some think they ended up in various places in Europe. Wherever they went, they blended into the culture and it is impossible to know.
Since at this point I am just speculating, would it not be inconceivable in a biblical worldview that their influence, if it did in fact extend to Europe, assist in conquering the world and spearheading the enlightenment? Seems a lot more becoming of a chosen people.
I do not know though and I am not going to claim I do, or spread information along as fact. But what I do know from reading the Bible, is I have no reason to interpret specifically the Jews as the chosen people of God. Any rationalization which would lead me to that conclusion would force me to also believe the descendants of Ishmael (the Arabs) are also God’s chosen people.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:41 pm to OBReb6
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Since at this point I am just speculating, would it not be inconceivable in a biblical worldview that their influence, if it did in fact extend to Europe, assist in conquering the world and spearheading the enlightenment? Seems a lot more becoming of a chosen people.
Like I said earlier. You, unknowingly apparently, subscribe to Replacement Theology.
Read Romans 11
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:43 pm to Revelator
Explain what replacement theology is
And for Christ’s sake, please tell me what has led you to the conclusion that Jews are God’s chosen people like I keep asking for you to
And for Christ’s sake, please tell me what has led you to the conclusion that Jews are God’s chosen people like I keep asking for you to
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:46 pm to OBReb6
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Explain what replacement theology is
It’s the belief by some modern Christians that God has forgotten or forsaken the Jews because they rejected Jesus as their messiah, and because of this, all the promises and blessings promised to Israel are now meant for the Christian Gentiles who have replaced them.
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And for Christ’s sake, please tell me what has led you to the conclusion that Jews are God’s chosen people like I keep asking for you to
It’s written throughout the Bible
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:48 pm to OBReb6
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And for Christ’s sake, please tell me what has led you to the conclusion that Jews are God’s chosen people like I keep asking for you to
Dispensationalism
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:50 pm to Revelator
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It’s the belief by some modern Christians that God has forgotten or forsaken the Jews because they rejected Jesus as their messiah, and because of this, all the promises and blessings promised to Israel are now meant for the Christian Gentiles who have replaced them.
bullshite. It was the prevailing view of Christianity for almost 2000 of its history (and honestly, still is).
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:51 pm to OBReb6
They are Gods chosen people. To be the lineage for Jesus to be brought forth in the flesh. They are still Gods people and He says He will put them in the fire and refine them. So i believe they will be redeemed at the end times. Just my interpretation.
Salvation thru Christ is available for all nations. And replacememt theology is that Christians replace Jews in Gods covenant.
Personally, i believe both are correct except we join the Jews once we are all redeemed. God isnt limited to either/or scenarios.
Salvation thru Christ is available for all nations. And replacememt theology is that Christians replace Jews in Gods covenant.
Personally, i believe both are correct except we join the Jews once we are all redeemed. God isnt limited to either/or scenarios.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:51 pm to Revelator
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It’s the belief by some modern Christians that God has forgotten or forsaken the Jews because they rejected Jesus as their messiah, and because of this, all the promises and blessings promised to Israel are now meant for the Christian Gentiles who have replaced them.
And what is your rebuttal to this? You asked me to read Romans 11, and this line of thought really seems to be what Paul is conveying. That Israel who had rejected Christ are the branches who had been cut off. And for the gentiles to not be prideful about taking their place or scorning them because of it.
I stand by what I am saying, that if you want a literal line of heirs for the receipt of the blessings of God, that the modern Jews are not in that line.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 3:54 pm to OBReb6
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That Israel who had rejected Christ are the branches who had been cut off. And for the gentiles to not be prideful about taking their place or scorning them because of it.
Why stop there?
23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again.
24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
25 ¶ Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:07 pm to Mo Jeaux
No I’m a member of the Jesus Christ is my savior club
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:23 pm to ole man
In Islam all are equal. In Christianity, jews are the chosen ones. Man...
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:26 pm to Old Money
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In Islam all are equal.
You are right. Equally screwed.
Thread has been anchored.
To the bottoms of the depths it goes
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This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:28 pm to Old Money
What’s funny. Or are you just trying to be cute. If so you failed
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:41 pm to Old Money
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In Islam all are equal. In Christianity, jews are the chosen ones. Man..
You should really listen to Tucker Carlsons podcast on paganism. In it, the guest explains that under Christianity, other faiths and even atheists are allowed to have a voice and prosper. In countries where Islamic sharia law rule, all those who do not bow down to Islam are jailed or killed.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:58 pm to Revelator
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You should really listen to Tucker Carlsons podcast on paganism. In it, the guest explains that under Christianity, other faiths and even atheists are allowed to have a voice and prosper. In countries where Islamic sharia law rule, all those who do not bow down to Islam are jailed or killed.
We used to persecute people for how they looked only a few decades ago. They too will eventually liberalize as their societies grow and globalize more. I'm only arguing the chosen people point. A core part of christianity is the savior is a jew and the chosen people are jews. The religion is a semitic one. Not native to whites. Christianity's growth in Europe suppresed native european religion, killed an innumerable amount of europeans in the name of a foreign god/religion. I don't see why I should care that this foreign religion is better than the other. They're both inherently not white. It would be weird if an arab went to norway and started worshipping a germanic god. It is equally as weird for a norwegian to worship a jewish god.
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