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re: Rubes- Many of you all were RUBES- Astra Zeneca PULLS COVID VAX

Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:26 pm to
Penrod tell me how a vaccine that neither prevented transmission or kept people from getting the virus saved "tons of lives"? In fact some studies said it weakened the immune system making it easier to get the virus and left you with less ability to fight it off. Explain exactly what you mean by "net positive".
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10355 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:26 pm to
So when will Astra start promoting an antivaccine vaccine ? Pharma will always come up with a new drug for a problem, even if they are the ones who started it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39543 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:31 pm to
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I am a healthcare professional and it is common knowledge in the healthcare community that we are seeing a drastic increase in young people with long term effects believed to be due to the vaccine.

Well THIS settles it. He’s a “health care professional”. And it is “well known”. There has been a “drastic increase”.

There is altogether too much data; it is overwhelming.

Wait, wait…from his next post…
quote:

The pharmacist at our hospital said

Oh no, the pharmacist.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39543 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:40 pm to
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Which is it? Are his supporters a blind allegiance cult or do we have a mind of our own and don't swallow his edicts hook, line, and sinker thus should be pissed he promoted the vax? You can't have it both ways here!

That is a rare good point on the rant.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:45 pm to
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You still support Trump and you think Tate is a tough guy.


And your butt buddy hero Biden, is he your idea of a tough guy?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72394 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:47 pm to
Keep lying.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:48 pm to
Pretty sure a pharmacist has a better view of many things than you.

LINK
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39543 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:49 pm to
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Penrod tell me how a vaccine that neither prevented transmission or kept people from getting the virus saved "tons of lives"?

First off, I agree that it did little or nothing to prevent transmission, and that Fauci et al lied about that.

The way it saved lives is that the data overwhelmingly shows that people who had been recently vaccinated had much better fatality results than those who did not. This is true of old and infirm people mostly. It had little effect on young healthy people.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:49 pm to
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Keep lying.


Explain what lie.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72394 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:00 pm to
You made one assertion. There's nothing to explain. You're as much a liar on your alter as on your main account.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124102 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Penrod tell me how a vaccine that neither prevented transmission or kept people from getting the virus saved "tons of lives"?
You make several inaccurate assumptions there.

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In fact some studies said it weakened the immune system making it easier to get the virus
As a general premise, that is complete bullshite. You've read something or been told something which you don't understand
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124102 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:11 pm to
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This is true of old and infirm people mostly
Bingo
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1822 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:25 pm to
I was thinking they pulled it for bad aide effects but i read the article and its because its still geared towards the old covid strains and they said there no use for it because theres more updated covid vaxs in the market place.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:31 pm to
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The way it saved lives is that the data overwhelmingly shows that people who had been recently vaccinated had much better fatality results than those who did not. This is true of old and infirm people mostly. It had little effect on young healthy people.


That data has been found to not be true. Plus it caused fatalities in young people. You are not able to compute current data without dragging in old propaganda.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:35 pm to
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quote:
In fact some studies said it weakened the immune system making it easier to get the virus

As a general premise, that is complete bullshite. You've read something or been told something which you don't understand


Not at all. Your MSNBC programmers are very successful at keeping you from doing your own research (or thinking on your own).

From .gov.

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Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations, frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients. Several practical measures to prevent a decrease in immunity have been reported. These include limiting the use of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, including acetaminophen to maintain deep body temperature, appropriate use of antibiotics, smoking cessation, stress control, and limiting the use of lipid emulsions, including propofol, which may cause perioperative immunosuppression. In conclusion, COVID-19 vaccination is a major risk factor for infections in critically ill patients.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124102 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:07 pm to
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Your MSNBC programmers
You've just passed the idiot threshold, idiot.

Factual science know no politics. Facts remain where they remain.

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The Lancet published a study on the ... waning of immunity with time
Oh my!
There it is.
As suspected.
If you' re interested in education we can pursue this,
Suffice it to say, the article had little or nothing to do with the first year's vax iterations.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
2087 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:11 pm to
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Ah my man.

Just wait. In about 10-15 years further “side effects” will probably be found. Early cancers etc.

The clots are just the tip of the iceberg.

It will take years before the real effects are known.
some of you are so fvcking stupid. the vaccine was pointless but it cannot cause cancer, much less a decade later, retard.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1420 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:19 pm to
The con is always in the isolation processes themselves as Stefan Lanka's experiments proved.

Steve Falconer breaks it down here so well even MD's can understand, although they have no incentive to.
Virus hocus pocus
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39543 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:43 pm to
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That data has been found to not be true.

bullshite! Show me a peer reviewed paper that refutes the fact that the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines reduced fatalities. You won’t. You can’t. It doesn’t exist.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 5:45 pm
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
480 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:47 pm to
You dumb fuq. MSNBC is the enemy of factual science, The link is a government link. Little or nothing , no the article has a lot more connection to the subject at hand than your ability to think which interestingly little or nothing fits perfectly. Another .gov link with many other links listed. Hope you get a clot.

Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs
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