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Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:52 pm to RedHog260
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Pretty sure a pharmacist has a better view of many things than you.
And a doctor has a better view than a pharmacist. And the vast majority of doctors said that everyone should be vaccinated. So doctors, who are more qualified than pharmacists, were generally wrong. So we can put to rest the idea that a pharmacist has a better opinion on this than anyone else, by virtue of their practice. They don’t.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 5:57 pm to RedHog260
The very paper you posted disagrees with your point of view. From that paper…
Still waiting for a paper that says vaccination does not reduce fatalities.
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During the early rollout of vaccines, vaccinated people represented a small share of total deaths, but experts warned that the share would likely rise simply because vaccinated people were representing a growing share of the population. In other words, if 100% of people in the U.S. were vaccinated, vaccinated people would represent 100% of COVID-19 deaths.
Still waiting for a paper that says vaccination does not reduce fatalities.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:08 pm to Penrod
That's funny seeing how increases in all cause mortality really went up starting in 2021 after the poison injections were rolled out. Not only did they not save one life, they flat out murdered millions and still are.
All cause mortality 2020-2023
You demand peer reviews, please. They will reflect whatever those with monetary interest want them to. In this case that would be the biggest lobby in DC, same people selling the poison with full immunity thanks to the politicians.
I'm sorry, those that took the poison were fooled by a bought and paid for scam. It's a sad thing, like a slowmotion car wreck. Many of the sudden deaths happening everyday were and are of those who thought they were fine. I watch the toll daily and it's sickening.
Have a look
All cause mortality 2020-2023
You demand peer reviews, please. They will reflect whatever those with monetary interest want them to. In this case that would be the biggest lobby in DC, same people selling the poison with full immunity thanks to the politicians.
I'm sorry, those that took the poison were fooled by a bought and paid for scam. It's a sad thing, like a slowmotion car wreck. Many of the sudden deaths happening everyday were and are of those who thought they were fine. I watch the toll daily and it's sickening.
Have a look
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:22 pm to Penrod
Actually doctors and pharmacists share many of the same courses and if your assumption is true that most doctors and pharmacists recommend vaccination might them getting from the government between $100 and $150 have a decided effecton their suggestion? That said my doctor told me not to get the vaccine. Why should I as I had already been infected. By the way it was not as bad as a rough cold and only lasted 5 days. When you figure in the fact that Covid mortality is truly low, tends to be more dangerous to people who are old or in poor health one wonders why you are such a vaxtard.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 5/8/24 at 6:36 pm to Penrod
So you want to take the word of the CDC, a pawn of Fauci and the rest of the government at their word. It seems Gates made billions off the vaccine. I remember a while back Gates doing a speech on how the world population needs to drop. The UN has made several noises in that direction also. The WHO also. I think their plan is to starve us. Dumping millions of people into the country without health checks or vetting, all who need to be fed and housed. Making no new provision to grow or make what is needed to this number of people. We already had a terrible homeless problem. So diseases and mouths to feed. Sounds like an embellished version of Cloward Piven.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:43 pm to RedHog260
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So you want to take the word of the CDC, a pawn of Fauci
Fauci is a yo-yo, no doubt about it. The CDC actually posts the real data. I analyzed CDC raw data all during the first months of covid, and that’s what led me to believe that it was not a big deal. An objective analysis of the data the CDC posted would lead anyone with a brain to realize that lockdowns and mask mandates were idiotic.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:52 pm to RedHog260
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Why should I as I had already been infected. By the way it was not as bad as a rough cold and only lasted 5 days. When you figure in the fact that Covid mortality is truly low, tends to be more dangerous to people who are old or in poor health one wonders why you are such a vaxtard.
You call me a vaxtard, but I agree with everything you say here (except that last bit). And my experience was identical to yours. I got covid because I was galavanting about. I went on vacations all through 2020 because it was easy. Eventually I got it. As expected it was nothing. I knew vaccination would do me no good, but my wife and I did it anyway because we could not see our grandchildren (out of the country) if we didn’t. I had the same fear of the vaccine that I had of covid - NONE. Both were justified.
You don’t need to post worldometers to me. I practically had it memorized during 2020. Plus, a loooong time before you could deduce death rates on worldometers I had guessed it damned accurately by analyzing the Diamond Princess data. Three weeks after we locked down I guessed the death rate to be 0.6% of infections. On December 31, 2020, before vaccines and mutations could affect things, the CDC data showed a death rate of 0.59%. That’s why 2020 was a party year for me.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:56 pm to PorkSammich
You should vote for the guy that tried to shove it down our throats through OSHA.
Again.
Again.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:59 pm to Hognutz
I strongly suspect all cause mortality rates were boosted because of lockdowns. You are dead wrong about the scope of vaccine caused deaths. You poo-poo science, which allows you to claim anything.
The truth is that science has not failed us; it is the reporting of science that has failed us. Most scientists who are qualified to know knew the virus was likely a lab leak, and they said so. But the MSM buried them and reported the charlatans. Same with mask effectiveness, covid fatalities, vaccine effectiveness, you name it.
Anyway, my challenge stands. None of you can find a serious scientist who claims in a scientific fashion (peer review) that the mRNA vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer were counter productive. It’s because they weren’t. They saved a hell of a lot more lives than they cost.
The truth is that science has not failed us; it is the reporting of science that has failed us. Most scientists who are qualified to know knew the virus was likely a lab leak, and they said so. But the MSM buried them and reported the charlatans. Same with mask effectiveness, covid fatalities, vaccine effectiveness, you name it.
Anyway, my challenge stands. None of you can find a serious scientist who claims in a scientific fashion (peer review) that the mRNA vaccines by Moderna and Pfizer were counter productive. It’s because they weren’t. They saved a hell of a lot more lives than they cost.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:07 pm to ruzil
The two Doctors, one a Nobel prize winner, who said the shot would kill all who took it, said 3 to 5 years.
They said in 3 to 5 years all who took it would no longer be with us.
So I'm praying and hoping that they were wrong and you are out of the woods. But the reality is we just don't know yet.
They said in 3 to 5 years all who took it would no longer be with us.
So I'm praying and hoping that they were wrong and you are out of the woods. But the reality is we just don't know yet.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
New Zealand is the best sample for Covid vax injuries. 5M people took 14M jabs. Steve Kirsch from MIT says on average 1/1000 died from vax, but also says there were batches of vaccines that killed 20% of the people injected.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:23 pm to Penrod
I have some strong suspicions myself. You and I will never see any of this remotely the same. You're asking for a peer reviewed paper and I find them suspect at best. I am fully convinced there is no virus and that what actually occured was a well funded and orchestrated plan, a con job to inject harms and God knows what all, probably nanotech. Hospitals were heavily incentivized to play along and get those numbers up. So no, the only lives that were at risk were those that made the mistake of going to a hospital. The poison didn't save a single soul. I don't need a paper, I saw what happened and still see it.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:37 am to RedHog260
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MSNBC is the enemy of factual science
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no the article has a lot more connection to the subject at hand than your ability to think which interestingly little or nothing fits perfectly.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:42 am to Penrod
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Still waiting for a paper that says vaccination does not reduce fatalities.
Now? Overall? What are the parameters?
Has this actually ever been truly looked at?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:43 am to Penrod
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The CDC actually posts the real data.
Real manipulated data.
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