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re: RINO is no longer a valid term
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:10 am to ShinerHorns
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:10 am to ShinerHorns
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Trump is the only true conservative president we’ve had in years. Crazy to think about.
These same people believe that Trump/Fauci didn't lockdown the country and that Trump has no accountability for the vaccine.
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:11 am to ShinerHorns
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:35 pm to wackatimesthree
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Reagan absolutely was more conservative than Trump.
Reagan was for gay marriage (secretly)
Reagan was a divorcee
Reagans justices gave us gay marriage
Reagan campaigned on ending Roe, and bringing back prayer to schools, His justices accomplished neither. They also voted against death penalty issues, private property ownership, created a gay marriage law out of thin air
And he gave us the Bush family
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:41 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Why do you stay registered as a Republican?
They just take you for granted
They just take you for granted
Posted on 5/9/24 at 1:44 pm to frogtown
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Being fiscally conservative is a big deal. Something that Trump failed at.
Which is a lie. Trump was the most fiscally conservative (R) president since WWII. Only Clinton added less by percentage to the debt (including covid spending). Then we got hoaxed with Covid, and he spent money to keep us afloat while we were locked in our homes by our governors
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Top 5 Presidents Who Added to National Debt by Percentage
Here are the top five presidents in modern U.S. history who recorded the largest percentage increase to national debt during their term(s) in office.
1. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933 to 1945)
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) contributed the largest percentage increase to U.S. national debt to date.
2. Woodrow Wilson (1913 to 1921)
President Woodrow Wilson added to the U.S. national debt with funding war efforts during World War I.
3. Ronald Reagan (1981 to 1989)
President Ronald Reagan added added over $1.6 trillion to the U.S. national debt.
4. George W. Bush (2001 to 2009)
President George W. Bush added about $4 trillion to the U.S. national debt. Military spending increased to record levels under Bush, due to launching the war in Afghanistan and War on Terror in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks, as well as the Iraq War in 2003.
5. Barack Obama (2009 to 2017)
When looking at which president added the most to national debt in dollar amounts, President Barack Obama takes the lead.
The National Debt Continues to Rise Under President Biden
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:29 pm to RobbBobb
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Trump was the most fiscally conservative (R) president since WWII.
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Only Clinton added less by percentage to the debt (including covid spending).
Wrong.
% added to debt
Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, Clinton, Ford and Carter are all better than Trump.
Also it does matter that most of those in that group only served four years(some less). You still don't seem to grasp that concept.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:59 pm to frogtown
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Wrong.
% added to debt
Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, Clinton, Ford and Carter are all better than Trump.
Also it does matter that most of those in that group only served four years(some less). You still don't seem to grasp that concept.
Got damn. Love a good beat down of Groomer Bobb Iger.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:43 pm to RobbBobb
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Which is a lie. Trump was the most fiscally conservative (R) president since WWII. Only Clinton added less by percentage to the debt (including covid spending).
I don't follow the logic of "as percentage of debt" being the measure of a president's fiscal performance. So the president after Trump's next term - he'll come in with about $40T debt on the books so could run up massive deficits and still measure "fiscally conservative" on this metric.
Wouldn't a much better metric be debt added as a function of gdp.
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4. George W. Bush (2001 to 2009)
President George W. Bush added about $4 trillion to the U.S. national debt. Military spending increased to record levels under Bush, due to launching the war in Afghanistan and War on Terror in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks, as well as the Iraq War in 2003.
5. Barack Obama (2009 to 2017)
When looking at which president added the most to national debt in dollar amounts, President Barack Obama takes the lead.
Yeah, they both sucked fiscally but they added all those dollars over 8 years while Trump did his massive damage in only 3.
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Then we got hoaxed with Covid, and he spent money to keep us afloat while we were locked in our homes by our governors
You got hoaxed. Trump got hoaxed. But not everybody got hoaxed.
Trump doesn't get a pass on Covid spending because you were afraid for your life because the establishment told you to be.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:36 pm to frogtown
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Also it does matter that most of those in that group only served four years(some less). You still don't seem to grasp that concept.
Jeez dude. just say you dont understand why statisticians use percentages. Its OK
And go re-read your own link. The list of the least fiscally conservative presidents is ON THAT SAME PAGE. And Trump aint on the list.
And like I said, youre the ONLY one rating conservative presidents based on the congressional budgets. Everyone else is including the moral decline, which Ike ushered in with his acceptance of New Deal policies, and liberal judges. Ike has never made a list of most conservative presidents, that I can find
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:52 pm to wackatimesthree
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Reagan absolutely was more conservative than Trump.
They were both democrats into their fricking 50s
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:48 am to RobbBobb
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just say you dont understand why statisticians use percentages.
After your display here, you should shut the frick up about why statisticians do anything.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:51 am to David_DJS
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Trump doesn't get a pass on Covid spending because you were afraid for your life because the establishment told you to be.
Only David_TDS could post something this dumb
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:26 am to SlidellCajun
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Why do you stay registered as a Republican?
I haven't been registered as a Republican in over 10 years ever since the Washington GOP registered me without my consent and then tried to sue me when I didn't pay donations that they pledged me for, again without my consent (I was registered in Texas at the time on Active Duty)
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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you should shut the frick up about why statisticians do anything.
And this is where you tell us why statisticians use percentages when comparing careers of varying lengths, like free throw percentages, batting percentages, win percentages, US debt factoring in the value of the dollar at the time, etc. Amirite?
Oh wait, but you didnt. Which is your typical response. Pretend that you know something, until its proven that you dont
Congrats. I guess
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:32 am to RobbBobb
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And this is where you tell us
I'm not telling you anything until you demonstrate that you understand the problem with the assertion you originally made.
It's been explained to you. Now you need to show that it stuck.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:34 am to MoarKilometers
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They were both democrats into their fricking 50s
Actually thats not true
Reagan originally registered as, and was a DIM for decades. In fact, he was elected head of union at one point
Trump originally registered as an (R) and stayed that way until W. Bush was elected, and then switched for the 8 years of the Bush presidency
Just another factoid that demonstrates that Trump was more conservative than Reagan
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:37 am to ShinerHorns
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Trump is the only true conservative president we’ve had in years. Crazy to think about.
I’m a Trump fan and don’t consider him to be conservative.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:41 am to RobbBobb
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And this is where you tell us why statisticians use percentages when comparing careers of varying lengths, like free throw percentages, batting percentages, win percentages, US debt factoring in the value of the dollar at the time, etc. Amirite?
"All statistical models are wrong. Some are useful."
-George E.P. Box
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:47 am to ShinerHorns
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Trump is the only true conservative president we’ve had in years. Crazy to think about.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:48 am to Gifman
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I’m a Trump fan and don’t consider him to be conservative.
He literally said a month ago "I am not a conservative". And he isn't.
People get riled up about that on here as if its an insult.
Its alright to not be conservative, be who you are. If you like his policies, that's alright.
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