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Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:05 pm to BBONDS25
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You dumb idiot. You don’t even know what I’m referring to do you?
C'mon dummy. What Trump spending bill passed with more than a 98% vote other than the Cares Act.
Still waiting for your answer.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:12 pm to BBONDS25
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Against a 98% vote? You need a lesson in civics.
You do know that he could've vetoed that, right?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:13 pm to frogtown
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What Trump spending bill passed with more than a 98% vote other than the Cares Act.
The House had a voice vote on the Cares Act. Voice votes are normally used for naming bridges and other inconsequential shite. Highly unusual to use it for a piece of legislation that matters.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:06 pm to Taxing Authority
So i will take that as no other president has been as conservative as orange in the past many years
You laughing just proved how intelligent you are
You laughing just proved how intelligent you are
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:31 pm to loogaroo
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Name one conservative in this congress.
Rand Paul
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:36 pm to Taxing Authority
Trump increased Federal Spending and the Swamp before Covid hit. He has some good policies but he is not a conservative.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:40 pm to ShinerHorns
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Crazy to think about.
Really crazy.
Especially since he's not a conservative.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:46 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
How about FRAUDS?
fricking
Republicans
Are
Unadulterated
Duck
Suckers
fricking
Republicans
Are
Unadulterated
Duck
Suckers
Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:02 pm to RobbBobb
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Here is your chance to name a more conservative president since WWII?
And dont start with Reagan. He broke the debt ceiling 18 times in 8 years. And stuck us with some pretty shitty justices
Reagan absolutely was more conservative than Trump.
Governance doesn't just depend on what the results are/were, it depends on the context of how those things came about and the philosophy that facilitated the agenda in the first place.
Reagan was able to compromise with Congressional Democrats to get what he got done. Compromise means that neither side gets exactly what they want.
Regan may not have always been able to enact a 100% conservative agenda, but he always had a conservative philosophy. Trump doesn't even have a conservative philosophy. Any conservative agendas he favors are favored purely by chance.
And Congress votes to raise the debt ceiling, the POTUS has nothing to do with it. And it has never been voted down. So that specific criticism is disingenuous at best.
Reagan did sign budgets and supported starting the trend of over spending, but to ignore that the reason why is that he was defeating the biggest military threat to America in the 20th century in a Cold War by outspending them into oblivion (and it worked) is also disingenuous. Either that or very ignorant.
Put Reagan in office with the conditions that existed in 2016 instead of 1980 and you would see a very different outcome. Reagan had to contend with interest rates as high as 16-18% in his first term. What were interest rates in 2016, like 3%?
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:19 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Unipartite
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I see I’ve triggered all the liberals. Love it.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 2:51 am to Damone
Wow. Damone, one of the worst posters on this board got it right.
Not sure if Damone meant it to be a compliment, but someone explain why it shouldn't.
I couldn't care less what someone calls Trump in the conservative/liberal spectrum. He's a fixer. That's my definition. Not trademark worthy, but anyone with a functioning brain would know what I mean.
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I prefer to use the term MAGA Patriot
Not sure if Damone meant it to be a compliment, but someone explain why it shouldn't.
I couldn't care less what someone calls Trump in the conservative/liberal spectrum. He's a fixer. That's my definition. Not trademark worthy, but anyone with a functioning brain would know what I mean.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:05 am to ShinerHorns
I see you didn't bother reading the post.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:17 am to ShinerHorns
Your definition of “conservative” must be unique. Trump has never been a true conservative according to any
accepted standard.
accepted standard.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:18 am to VOR
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Your definition of “conservative” must be unique. Trump has never been a true conservative according to any accepted standard.
Then you should love him. Hmmmm.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:06 am to CGSC Lobotomy
If one honestly looks at Trump both before and during his tenure as president, he would fall into that category based on many of his social policies and how much money he spent even before COVID.
That said, he is still our best option since after the 2016 primary through the 2024 election.
That said, he is still our best option since after the 2016 primary through the 2024 election.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:52 am to frogtown
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If we are talking about being "fiscally conservative" if would be Eisenhower.
We are not. And I'll let the people of his time define him for for
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When asked if Eisenhower was more of a liberal or a conservative, 54% of self-described liberals said he was a liberal, while 71% of self-described conservatives saw him as a conservative.
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For a period of time, the Republican Party seemed to be following the same course as right-of-center parties in other industrialized democracies today. Dwight Eisenhower accepted the contours and legitimacy of the New Deal while fighting many of the particulars. The conservative movement’s purpose was to oppose and reverse Eisenhower’s political vision for the Republican Party.
Conservative Republicans arose to undo what Ike had done over 8 years. Thats how Nixon got the 1960 nomination
Ike helped in a BIG way to shut down Joe McCarthy. And look at where that has us today. I will also let him tell you in his own words
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So that here we have, really, the compound, the overall philosophy of Lincoln: in all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with the people's money or their economy, or their form of government, be conservative
His Supreme Court justices gave us forced busing for schools, students rights to violate school policies in order to protest, allowed for burning of the flag, removed prayer in schools, allowed criminals to go free if they werent told of their rights on the spot, took over redistricting maps
Almost nothing conservative about his overall tenure
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:59 am to RobbBobb
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We are not.
You mean you are not.
Being fiscally conservative is a big deal. Something that Trump failed at.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:02 am to ShinerHorns
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Trump is the only true conservative president we’ve had in years
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