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RFKjr finally naming names.

Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:42 am
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:42 am
Interview with Ben Shapiro

Ben got real uncomfortable when RFK brought up Scott Gottlieb. wiki Thought that was interesting.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 12:48 am
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:50 am to
Saving this for later
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 1:28 am to
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4435 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:39 am to
I watched from that point on

He's right on Ukraine
He's right on Defense spending.
He's right on agency capture and equipped to deal with it.
He's off base on abortion... but as long as ths supreme court is constituted as it is at present nothing will change.., Unfortunately, the SC would probably change for the worse were he to be elected. So...
He's weak on the supreme court.
He's evasive on Climate and I suspect would carry right along with the very destructive climate change hoax.
He's likely to focus on wasteful spending, but unlikely to make significant cuts to discretionary spending.
He would probably be good on trade policy although it wasn't specifically addressed in this session.
He has said the right thing on the border but is less reliable than Trump on this issue... particularly deportation.

My feeling is he would make a very good ZAR over Government Corruption And Agency Capture. I would like him at State, Defense, CIA.

Overall, I give him a 50. An F.

I score Trump at 55. F. Strong on Supreme CT. Trade, and Climate. Neutral on Ukraine and the border(he'll get talked into continuing the war and will not do much deporting), won't cut spending on Defense or anything else. Won't do anything about agency capture or government corruption.

Voting for him for President.

I give Biden a 5%. F- Gave him a .5 for trade policy.

Worst president ever.

By the way, Vivek scores an 83. B. Unclear on his defense spending position. Unclear on his trade position.

VP. Chief of Staff. 2028.

DeSantis scores a 61. F

2nd Choice VP. Governor of Florida. Followed by VP 2028 or Senate

I will say on DeSantis. Im a little confused on DeSantis positions on alot of this stuff and probably need to do more research. I think he is strong on the border. Don't see him making deep spending cuts on anything. Probably strong on Climate change, Unlikely to get out of Ukraine. Gave him a .5 on agency capture and corruption.
And a 0 on Ukraine as I think he would continue funding strong on Supreme CT, border,. More likely to do a mass deportation than Trump, who lied on this before. Won't cut the defense budget. Unsure on trade policy but assume he is a free trader at all cost guy.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 4:21 am
Posted by Beessnax
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 3:56 am to
I am glad that I don't work for you
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4435 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:08 am to
Well all these guys are wrong or evasive on important issues so it's difficult. Except Biden who is pretty much wrong on everything.
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Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:17 am to
quote:

RiverCityTider


How do you come up with these scores?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4435 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:24 am to
1 point for good. 0 for bad. .5 for unsure for all 9 issues cited.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11400 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:26 am to
RFK Jr has a lot of good things to say. However, he also said that if Congress passed a bill to ban "assault weapons" that he'd sign it - that is an automatic DQ. That said, he would be a tremendous asset in multiple positions.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:30 am to
He will also push the climate hoax. I'm sure of it. That to is a disqualifier. These issues are not all equal in importance. Climate and the Supreme CT are non negotiable.

But you also have to look at competencey. Trump loses points on agency capture and Government Corruption because he can't pull off draining the swamp. The swamp had him on the run for 4 years. Rfk would more likely make a dent. RFK would also actually get us out of Ukraine involvement. Trump will backpeddle. Trump is easily manipulated.

DeSantis is more likely to make progress fiscally. He's also more likely to deport and at least make an attempt to drain the swamp. But he won't get out of Ukraine and will never take on the defense department.

Trump's strongest points are trade and climate. Those are the issue he is less likely to waiver on. Ukraine and all the other stuff is just politics for him. But he will drill baby drill. And he already pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord. No one else would have done that.

Vivek is the smartest. You have to consider that as well. His positions are flawless. His arguments are sound. His plan is radical. Radical is necessary against the democrats. But he is an Indian and a Hindu and alot of "traditional conservatives" will never forgive that. So they will ignore what he says and call him a "plant".

So you have all that.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 4:50 am
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:27 am to
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He's right on Defense spending.


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won't cut spending on Defense


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defense spending position


You do know "defense spending" was around 13% of the entire budget,correct?

How much do you wanna cut? And even if you eliminated it entirely we'd still have over a trillion deficit for the fiscal '23 budget.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5035 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:19 am to
quote:

Vivek is the smartest. You have to consider that as well. His positions are flawless. His arguments are sound. His plan is radical. Radical is necessary against the democrats. But he is an Indian and a Hindu and alot of "traditional conservatives" will never forgive that. So they will ignore what he says and call him a "plant".



Vivek is also a bullshite artist and you’re making a big gamble to take him entirely at his word. I strongly suspect if he ever got into DC, you’d witness the usual Paul Ryan metamorphosis.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:20 am to
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How much do you wanna cut? And even if you eliminated it entirely we'd still have over a trillion deficit for the fiscal '23 budget.


IMO this is the wrong want to look at this. Every dollar should matter. Defense spending is bloated and not done wisely just like every other budget area. Everything needs at least needs to be trimmed and somethings need to be eliminated.
Govt payrolls need to be slashed and things like Women/minority owned guarantees need to go away. Giving billions to University's when they have billions in the bank is idiotic. Aid for every country that has a hand out is dumb where we have zero interest.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:24 am to
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Vivek is the smartest. You have to consider that as well. His positions are flawless.


His positions today or those from a couple of years ago?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:11 am to
Shapiro squirmed so many times in that interview. He’s a weasel.

Try to imagine Trump or Biden discussing any of those topics in the depth that Kennedy did. You can’t because they can’t.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:17 am to
Shapiro is untrustworthy
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:19 am to
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Vivek is also a bullshite artist and you’re making a big gamble to take him entirely at his word


He has zero history to back anything he says.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37909 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:26 am to
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He has zero history to back anything he says.


History in terms of his own experience? Or history as evidence to back up his claims?

If it’s the later I think that’s false. If it’s the former, what is the assumption if you are not taking him at his word? That he has ulterior motives of some sort on behalf of the state or corporate interests? If that is true, how could he be allowed to have said some of the things he said that were so egregious in their attacks of those entities? The only thing his campaign accomplished was further alerting the populace to those types of things.

I just have a hard time buying the argument he’s full of shite because I don’t understand how that benefits anyone.
Posted by Carbonman
Butte la Rose
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:40 am to
BLAH, BLAH BLAH! He's a Kennedy and that's enough to disqualify him from being on a school board much less president. This clown believes in jailing people who deny man caused climate change. What else does anyone need to know about him?
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37909 posts
Posted on 5/13/24 at 7:51 am to
quote:

BLAH, BLAH BLAH! He's a Kennedy and that's enough to disqualify him from being on a school board much less president. This clown believes in jailing people who deny man caused climate change. What else does anyone need to know about him?


I was talking about Vivek Ramasmamy you illiterate hick
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