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re: Phony Rispone: Another RINO

Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:39 am to
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:39 am to
He's still Correct!
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:59 am to
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I understand why Eddie chose to go negative. He wasn't about eat millions of dollars on a failure


Dude..... Rispone will not beat Ralph Abraham.... Even though he has out spent him 5 to 1... Ain't gonna happen...
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37855 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 12:06 pm to
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However, if he finishes third, I will vote for Rispone gladly over JBE. As despicable as I think his lies about Abraham have been, he’s 10 times better than JBE.



frick that. If my choices are Sloth from the Goonies or that dwarf rat faced coonass I’m not voting.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:29 pm to
I agree with most of what you said. Jindal was re-elected with >65% of the vote and very little challenge because he was doing a good job his first term. The "looking for a better job" combined with the crap turn in the economy is what demolished his legacy. One of those is not really on him (the economy) however if he were more engaged he could have maybe lessened the blow. The other however falls squarely on his shoulders.

Had Jindal been a one term Governor and not sought re-election, he would have gone down as a good-great Governor or at the bare minimum forgotten about. Not the disaster he is known for.

All that being said, Rispone was in a lose-lose situation. (Much like most conservatives in the state would be with a Jindal topic, remember 65% of the voters voted for him in a state that is 43% democrat voters)

- He defends Jindal and explains that, most people wouldn't understand anything and label him as the next Jindal.

- He goes after Jindal and critizes him, he looks like a person that can't own his choices, and places the blame (no different than JBE)

- Or he goes against his morals and lies that he never supported him or any of his ideals. That they were all bad, blah blah blah.

The truth is Jindal's ideas were not all bad and some are still having positive effect to this day. His execution was terrible his second term and has now made everything "Jindal" radioactive.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Saying yes would chance losing more votes than gaining votes.


Not even losing votes. This election (no matter how much WeeWee, Setrius, and Rock the Casbah will try to tell you different) will be decided on voter turnout. Voter turn out will be the largest deciding factor in both the primary and the run off. You effect that by motivating your supporters and demotivating your competitors voters. You explicitly talk about taking away a dependency program and you give huge motivation for the dependents to get out and vote against you.

Rispone supporters aren't going to switch to JBE, and neither will Abraham supporters (as a whole, you will have some petty individuals here and there). You will have some people that are undecided that always vote (older people) that will go in and pull the JBE lever for no reason other than "they have to vote" and don't like change.

BUT if the conservatives come out in full force you could end up with Abraham vs Rispone in a run off. If they stay home or the libs come out, you don't get a run off. Then there is everything in between.

Crazy enough, with all the Trump supporters fired up with the craziness in congress right now, if Trump came down and just campaigned against JBE (and even with both Rispone & Abraham), you could see something close to the first hypothetical. Remembering that Trump got more votes in 2016 than all that voted in 2015.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:17 pm to
You give too much credit to the voters in this state. There are alot more undecided voters plus the ones who have their candidate, but will change on a whim, than "some petty individuals" . A huge chunk are driven by personality, hyperbole, plus the peer pressure of his baw neighbor than the polls would indicate, even to their own detriment.

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BUT if the conservatives come out in full force you could end up with Abraham vs Rispone in a run off.


Not even close to happening. There is simply no where near enough conservatives in this state for this to happen.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10681 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:29 pm to
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Rispone also spent money on political action committees to promote the breakaway of part of a wealthier, whiter part of East Baton Rouge Parish into a community called St. George, according to state campaign finance records. He also formed Citizens for a Better Baton Rouge, funding it with $78,000, to support Republican state Sen. Bodi White in his race for Baton Rouge mayor. White, who supported the St. George breakaway, lost that race to Democrat Sharon Weston Broome in 2016.
He locked up my vote when he did this.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27515 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:31 pm to
Sorry Ralph the gig is up. You had your chance and you blew it. I was going to vote for you - cuck.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 2:40 pm to
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There is simply no where near enough conservatives in this state for this to happen.


Don't confuse Conservative with Republican. We have old conservative democrats in our state and conservative independents.

There are 3,000,000 registered voters in LA.
1,114,000 voted in the 2015 primary.
1,153,000 voted in the 2015 runoff.
2,029,000 voted in the 2016 presidential election.
1,178,000 voted for Trump in the 2016 election.

I know that the first hypothetical I said was very unlikely. But there is the chance. I was just using it as an example of why voter turnout will be and always has been the biggest decider of this race.

Voter turn out in 2015 was the second lowest it has been since Edwin Edwards first election in 1971! Only one lower was Jindal's re-election in 2011. Voter turnout plays the biggest part in this election.

2015) 1,152,864
2011) 1,023,163
2007) 1,297,943
2003) 1,362,524
1999) 1,295,204
1995) 1,550,360
1991) 1,549,255
1987) 1,558,730
1983) 1,609,352
1979) 1,365,880
1975) 1,203,004
1971) 1,174,043
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6803 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:09 pm to
First, not a breakaway. Second, so he supports a group of people's constitutional right to self determination, you got a problem with the constitution? This is exactly why I give him more support than Doc. Eddie, actually walks the walk. Doc just talks about it. Third, GEAUX ST. GEORGE
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56780 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:11 pm to
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Asked each candidate if they would rollback the Medicaid expansion. Rispone and Abraham BOTH said NO! Rispone wants to be CEO of the $30 billion state budget. Bobby Jindal Part II!!!! Abraham hit him hard on saying he's an outsider. Rispone has been THE SECRET MONEY MAN behind most of state-wide republican candidates and Congressional candidates for years. Donating millions to their campaign coffers.



And, because of that who should we vote for?
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:11 pm to
How long have you worked on the Abraham campaign team? Ralph sounded like a blithering idiot in two debates.
“I’m a doctor, I’m a farmer, I’m a not a politician”
He was bad. I trust Rispone to clean this mess up. He’s got a proven track record of success in business, and if you ever met him, he’s the nicest, most humble guy you will meet.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6803 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:23 pm to
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that dwarf rat faced coonass
Rispone is Italian not Cajun. I think we'd prefer you stick with that and not vote
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:23 pm to
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This election (no matter how much WeeWee, Setrius, and Rock the Casbah will try to tell you different) will be decided on voter turnout.


When did I ever say the election wouldn’t be decided on turnout??

With JBE close to 50 and ralph-eddie within the MOE, turnout will decide everything.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37855 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:25 pm to
Rispone is a typical sawed off, little man syndrome having dumbfrick coonass. Only thing I would vote for him for would be to play Fievel the mouse in the next American tail movie.
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:27 pm to
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Don't confuse Conservative with Republican. We have old conservative democrats in our state and conservative independents.



No confusion here. But to clarify, I'm referring to fiscal conservatives.
quote:

We have old conservative democrats in our state and conservative independents.


And we have a large group of 'R's (RINO's) that will vote the way the wind blows that day.
Probably a good estimate of conservatives in the state, is the number that voted for Vitter. I doubt any one voted for him on personality or a clever sound bite.

This smaller group of conservatives is also reflective of the House makeup.


Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:31 pm to
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turnout will decide everything.


Holy crap we agree on something!

I may have been mistaken. I thought you were part of the group blaming Rispone in the event that there is no runoff or JBE wins because he was turning off Abraham voters that would now be voting for JBE instead of Rispone.

There is a group on here that are already making excuses for if / when Abraham loses and none of those excuses put the blame on Abraham.
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