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re: Phony Rispone: Another RINO

Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36279 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:04 pm to
Rispone should never have attacked Abraham.

I just thing Rispone is a better leader, administrator and more of a take charge guy.

Abraham is a fine man, I just don’t see the it factor necessary to take over, kick arse and push things through. I would love to have him on my side though.

If he gets in the run off I will support him and cut him a check.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11639 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:05 pm to
I am 100% for Abraham. Voting for him Saturday. However, if he finishes third, I will vote for Rispone gladly over JBE. As despicable as I think his lies about Abraham have been, he’s 10 times better than JBE.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:12 pm to
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Rispone should never have attacked Abraham.



I understand why Eddie chose to go negative. He wasn't about eat millions of dollars on a failure until he's exhausted every possible route to win the election. That's his own prerogative.

However, the route he's on right now is destined for failure and that's on him if he spent millions and couldn't get a spot in the runoff and for conservatives who want JBE gone, he has no business cannibalizing his conservative competition who is the only other hope to win the election and we have to do everything we can to discourage him from doing that.

He's clearly not a team player towards what Louisiana really needs and that's getting rid of a Governor who is not useful and productive at all.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

No. it was to show Abraham was and is right to call him out on his outsider claim. Phony Rispone, has both his hands and money in Louisiana politics statewide for years.


This is a hilarious take. The career politicians all want money. A citizen gives money to them and then they use it against them? And Rispone is the insider? Lol.

And as you stated, his major contributions have been in recent years. Ever think he had enough? Then decided to donate. Realized the money wasn’t helping and said he’d take it into his own hands and run?

Even more to this point...if donating makes him an insider, why spend $10M of his own money to run when he could bribe JBE with a few hundred thousand like GumboPAC? What’s his motivation?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36279 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

I understand why Eddie chose to go negative. He wasn't about eat millions of dollars on a failure until he's exhausted every possible route to win the election. That's his own prerogative. However, the route he's on right now is destined for failure and that's on him if he spent millions and couldn't get a spot in the runoff and for conservatives who want JBE gone, he has no business cannibalizing his conservative competition who is the only other hope to win the election and we have to do everything we can to discourage him from doing that. He's clearly not a team player towards what Louisiana really needs and that's getting rid of a Governor who is not useful and productive at all.


Two things, if Abraham can’t counter these attacks on his salary, he couldn’t best Edwards.

Second, Rispone like Trump isn’t a team player. They are the GM, the coach, and they both firmly believe in themselves. Each believes they are the man, the best and will fight as hard as they know how to win.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29265 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 7:47 am to
I’ve met all of them too. And I always liked Eddie. He made a terrible error going after Doc with that commercial he must have used GumboPac to produce. Shame on him. Bel isn’t anymore likeable in person than comes across in public.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:07 am to
quote:

Rispone showed his colors when he started attacking Abraham. Jay Dardenne II


And the Louisiana Republican base has shown that they didn't learn from last time and are still pussies...

A little campain banter and people bury their heads in the sand to hide.

Are we really this thin skinned as a party that we can't do what is needed for the state because political campaigns are doing what all political campaigns do?
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7323 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:10 am to
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Rispone also spent money on political action committees to promote the breakaway of part of a wealthier, whiter part of East Baton Rouge Parish into a community called St. George, according to state campaign finance records. He also formed Citizens for a Better Baton Rouge, funding it with $78,000, to support Republican state Sen. Bodi White in his race for Baton Rouge mayor. 

Why are you trying to convince us to vote for Rispone?
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2183 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 8:40 am to
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Rispone showed his colors when he started attacking Abraham.


Politics are not for thin-skinned folks. There’s too much time & $$ invested for these candidates. RA is in Rispone’s path to success & vice versa.

Imagine where we would be if DJT had taken this “pet the party” mindset!

It is ridiculous to ridicule a candidate for calling out his opponent’s flaws.
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:24 am to
quote:

It is ridiculous to ridicule a candidate for calling out his opponent’s flaws.


True - but that wasn’t what Cuck Rispone did.
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:30 am to
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I love how Rispone brags about creating jobs. Does he think people work in Abraham's clinics for free?


It's not bragging when you are stating a fact.

Are you trying to equate Abraham's "job creations" with Rispone's?

Abraham:
1. Family farm that was passed to him that he has very little to no day to day with. The majority are family members or temp labor, not jobs.

2. Medical practice, he is listed as the only doctor. His wife and daughter are the owners, he has a couple NPs, and he may have a secretary

3. First pharmacy, wife and daughter are listed as owners / operators. Might have 1-2 additional employees

4. Second pharmacy he is / was listed as a minority owner with <25%, so doubtful he has any doings with this one above cashing the checks.

So, he may have 10-12 employees. Of which he, his wife, his daughter, a business partner, and a couple of other family members (the farm) are included. What is that, 6 actual jobs created? That is not a job creator, that is a job provider for his family.

Rispone employees around 3,600 people, and continues to grow every year. Only one of these can take the title of "job creator", and it isn't the one where 1/2+ of his employees are his family.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36279 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:39 am to
Rispone’s story is indeed a great one. He’d not a fourth generation contractor but a self made millionaire with thousands of employees. How can anyone fault Rispone for pointing that out?

On the other hand Abraham has a good story to tell also. Why isn’t he doing that better? Why isn’t he bragging on himself more? He did some last night and scored some points.

One guy’s story doesn’t diminish the other guy’s. Each should be using that against JBE who is from a family of politicians who set him up as the crown prince. Fourth generation sheriff in La. isn’t fourth generation Andy Griffith. In La. it means corrupt politics.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14519 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:48 am to
Not a fan of some of the attacks Rispones has lodged against Abraham, but he is hardly a RINO.

He is for a constitutional convention, tax cuts and having student centered educational reform. Those are all important state conservative goals.
Posted by Rock the Casbah
Member since Dec 2014
940 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Are you trying to equate Abraham's "job creations" with Rispone's?


You’re right Rodfather, there is no legitimate comparison.

But creating a successful industrial contracting business doesn’t necessarily mean you would be a successful Governor.

And Rispone has absolutely proven that it doesn’t mean you can run a competent political campaign.
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2183 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:02 am to
quote:

but he is hardly a RINO.


Yeah, this silly claim makes no sense with no factual basis. His conservative platform speaks for itself.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36279 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Not a fan of some of the attacks Rispones has lodged against Abraham, but he is hardly a RINO. He is for a constitutional convention, tax cuts and having student centered educational reform. Those are all important state conservative goals.


I was surprised Rispone didn’t have a ready made reply to Edwards where he tried to paint him as another Jindal.

Most of Jindal’s reforms are helping us today.
The Jindal stain is his Jindal left La. to run for president and how he refused to handle a steep revenue decline brought on my the Great Recession and the oil collapse.

Jindal didn’t put us in debt, Jindal didn’t raise taxes, and Jindal didn’t commit the state to Medicare Expansion which committed the state to several hundred million in more spending and is ripe with corruption.

Edwards has not changed any of Jindal’s reforms or accomplishments. He just taxed us more and gave us more welfare.
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:37 am to
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Asked each candidate if they would rollback the Medicaid expansion. Rispone and Abraham BOTH said NO!


Saying yes would chance losing more votes than gaining votes.
Republicans are hamstrung on this issue right now. The best one can do, is:

** Put as much restrictions on the program as fed guidelines will allow.

** Do extensive checks, especially tax returns, to ensure that the recipients qualify.

The Feds could make it such a financial burden that the state has no choice but to drop it. It appears we're already on that path under current law.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14519 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I was surprised Rispone didn’t have a ready made reply to Edwards where he tried to paint him as another Jindal.

Most of Jindal’s reforms are helping us today.
The Jindal stain is his Jindal left La. to run for president and how he refused to handle a steep revenue decline brought on my the Great Recession and the oil collapse.

Jindal didn’t put us in debt, Jindal didn’t raise taxes, and Jindal didn’t commit the state to Medicare Expansion which committed the state to several hundred million in more spending and is ripe with corruption.

Edwards has not changed any of Jindal’s reforms or accomplishments. He just taxed us more and gave us more welfa


Yeah they haven't not really landed solid blows on JBE, either of them.
Posted by 2tigergo
Member since Jan 2013
201 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:06 am to
Abraham & Rispone need to do serious prep work with mock debates before the next official debate. Obviously, JBE is a natural at deception.

As for as Rispone, he fails Debate 101 in -Never - Ever - Never say "I agree" to your opponent's response. ALWAYS, frame your response in a slightly different way. He's made this mistake in both debates.

He needs, and can afford, to have better training than this.

They both need to respond to JBE's deceptive numbers he spits out, AND INCLUDE his typical rebuttal. If they don't he will always comeback with his own deceptive argument that sounds so compelling to the uninformed.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14519 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:28 am to
quote:

They both need to respond to JBE's deceptive numbers he spits out, AND INCLUDE his typical rebuttal. If they don't he will always comeback with his own deceptive argument that sounds so compelling to the uninformed.


Solid advice


Unfortunately I think the next debate will be mostly irrelevant.
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