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re: Let’s be honest, even if Trump beats election fraud and wins in November

Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72886 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:25 pm to
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support a man who hijacked a truly conservative movement, and did nothing but piss on it.




HFS you are delusional and a liar. the vast majority of the mans policies were conservative. moreso than reagan. i laid them out here ad infinitum. he ruined whose con movement? bush? mccain? romney? ryan? Mccarthy?



MELT bitch over these accomplishments. you are a true CUCK rino.

trump stances

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accomplishments

New Trade Analysis Shows Longevity of President Trump’s Tariffs Diminishing Chinese Imports – China fell from 21.6% of U.S. imports in 2017 to 16.5% in 2022
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Exclusive: Trump list shows 319 ‘results’ and promises kept in three years


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17965 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:27 pm to
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Logic would dictate that a person wouldn’t continue to put themselves in the line of fire like Trump has just to make the same mistakes again.

That's wishful thinking, not logic.

I hope/pray, too.

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All you never Trumpers make the same stupid mistake when criticizing Trump which is predicated on there being a better option(s) currently available. Is Trump flawed? Absolutely. Out of available candidates is he the best option? Also absolutely.

If you're referring to whacko liberals, then you're right about never-Trumping. But if you're talking about Republicans that vote for Trump, then they're not never-Trumpers. And they're well aware of Trump being very flawed but Biden being worse.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72400 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:28 pm to
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the vast majority of the mans policies were conservative.




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We are going to save our Second Amendment.

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That is why I have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders.

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Although the Obama administration repeatedly concluded that particular bump stock type devices were lawful to purchase and possess, I sought further clarification of the law restricting fully automatic machine guns.

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Bump stocks, we are writing that out. I am writing that out. I don’t care if Congress does it or not, I’m writing it out myself.

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Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns.

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I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.

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We have tremendous support for really common-sense, sensible, important background checks.

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What are we going to do about assault rifles?

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Well, it’s the military weapons.

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It doesn't make sense that I have to wait till I'm 21 to get a handgun but I can get this [AR-15].

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I support the ban on assault weapons

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So we’ll take a look at [a new assault weapon ban].










Posted by cmac5125
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
296 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:29 pm to
This is true. The senate has to confirm his nominees and what are the chances the senate, which already has a slim margin and plenty of RINOs, will not demand they have a choice in his nominees or else they will not be given a confirmation vote.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72886 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:30 pm to
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cusoonkpd


run back to the OT cesspool. run back to the children over there. you fit in better.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
142 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 9:50 pm to
Still voting Trump.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4122 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:08 pm to
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1. He will continue the Ukraine War
2. There will be no mass deportation.
3. He will slow the illegal crossings.
4. He will slow the climate change insanity.
5. He will do nothing to improve our hopeless fiscal situation.


I think that's a good start to a reasonable prediction.

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Alot better than Biden.


Just for the immigration and climate change reversals alone, I agree.

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But not nearly enough to save our country.


If you're looking for someone to come in and reverse the trend on the national deficits/debt, I just don't think it's going to happen.

You'd have to get rid of SS/Medicare. I don't mean reform it. I mean get rid of it. As in, one day you get your last SS check and there's no more coming. And your Medicare card is rejected at the Dr.'s the next time you try to use it.

And that's just not going to happen.

I think that the First World has come to the point that psychologically people simply will no longer accept not having government entitlements like that. And I think politicians know that and that's why none of them seem concerned...because they know nothing can/will be done about it.

So one of three things is going to happen:

1. Either we can just keep printing more money ad infinitum without a financial catastrophe eventually ensuing. I agree that seems unlikely.

2. Someone has a plan for when that catastrophe occurs that involves some kind of a re-set on the fiscal system that they are confident will work.

3. We're just going to go over the cliff and the country will collapse in whatever way a country collapses when it overspends like we are. I don't know what that looks like. i'm not sure anyone does.

But it's not like we're the only ones facing this. We're not even in the top five highest budget deficits in the world (we ARE in the top five nations with largest debt...we are #1, in fact, in terms of dollar amount, but Japan is number one in terms of debt to GDP ratio).

Turns out, when you have a country with a large budget burden of entitlements (like SS/Medicare in our case, other countries also have universal health care, etc), it's pretty much guaranteed that you're going to spend more than you take in. Out of 7.9 Bilion people on the planet, 3.3 Billion live in countries who spend more than they take in, and most of those are like the US. Established economies in first world countries.

Ask anybody here if they would be willing for the US to just stop funding SS/Medicare in order to pay down the debt. And keep in mind, that wouldn't mean you could stop paying the taxes. The taxes would be the money that would be used to pay down the debt. So you'd still pay your FICA, but you wouldn't get the benefits when you turned 65 (or thereabouts).

Anybody willing to do that, raise your hand.

Because that's what it would take.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74054 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:11 pm to
Yeah we really fricked up. Desantis would never back down and would have destroyed the DS
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72886 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:12 pm to
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Yeah we really fricked up. Desantis would never back down and would have destroyed the DS


Posted by HoopsAurora
Member since Apr 2024
71 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:27 pm to
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He will appoint corrupt swamp rats that will sabotage everything he tries to do.


I think he knew who he was hiring. How do you show people the corruption? Let the corrupt do it themselves. He had certain people around that were legit, but I def think he brought people in who he knew were corrupt and he let them hang themselves either publicly or behind closed doors. When he gets back in, it's no holds barred and the gloves will be off. Yeah yeah, conspiracy theory, but I think we've learned, every conspiracy winds up becoming reality.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29942 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:29 pm to
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That's wishful thinking, not logic.


No it’s logical to learn from your mistakes.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32662 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:30 pm to
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I think he knew who he was hiring. How do you show people the corruption? Let the corrupt do it themselves. He had certain people around that were legit, but I def think he brought people in who he knew were corrupt and he let them hang themselves either publicly or behind closed doors. When he gets back in, it's no holds barred and the gloves will be off. Yeah yeah, conspiracy theory, but I think we've learned, every conspiracy winds up becoming reality.


This is Q level self sabotage
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108835 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:33 pm to
All I have to say is if the rumors are true that he’s picked Marco Rubio as his VP, then you’re right. If he’s determined to get rid of the swamp rats, he’ll get Tulsi as his VP.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6575 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:49 pm to
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You sacrificed the future of your kids and grandchildren to a make believe deity because you were pissed off at our government.



Clearly, the better option was to continue voting for the GOPe politicians that haven't listened to their constituents in years. That would have solved all our problems.

Your emotional language aside, it's insane to keep voting for those same politicians that give in to the democrats all the time. If you aren't pissed at our government, then you don't truly care about conservative principles. If you are pissed but not willing to vote for someone who is not your typical republican politician, then you are only exacerbating the problem.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26552 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:50 pm to
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He will appoint corrupt swamp rats that will sabotage everything he tries to do.

Does this mean you support Joe Biden in the 2024 election?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162245 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:51 pm to
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Trump is a big cat and now is aware of the rats.

He was fully unaware of them for his entire first term?
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29158 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:58 pm to
You're right. Absolutely right. Let's just not even try and stick with the current administration cuz they're so much better.
Posted by LatherZap
Member since Mar 2022
838 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 10:59 pm to
I can get pessimism pedicting the swamp will crush him regardless. but piling on that his appointments will contribute to the sabotage is just being negative.

Drink some good beer, listen to some good tunes! Lighten up, man.
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
9122 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:51 am to
I'm surprised none of you have mentioned the most germane response to this. Its called Project 2025. There was nothing like it in place in 2016 or after any Republican Presidential win ever. It's both radical and entirely necessary. If pursued as planned, the Deep State is thoroughly cleansed.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7099 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:10 am to
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anymore than you can prove it.


Well, we have Trumps last term to look at where he *checks notes* appointed a ton of swampers when he *checks notes again* promised to drain the swamp
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