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LA Legislature to address Teacher Shortage using Retirees earning 50%.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:25 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:25 am
Retirees earn an average of $27,378 annually in retirement. The bill if passed would allow them to earn 50% of their annual pension, a measley $13,689 before taxes, for up to 3 years. What retired teacher will want to work a full year for an avg. gross salary of $13.6K?
This just shows how much Louisiana values its teachers both active and retirees. Poorly paid, low retirement benefits, and not addressing the real issue. Paying teachers a true living wage. They all should walk off the job today and choose another field of work.
Teaching is a noble profession, but just not truly valued by others. Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension.
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This just shows how much Louisiana values its teachers both active and retirees. Poorly paid, low retirement benefits, and not addressing the real issue. Paying teachers a true living wage. They all should walk off the job today and choose another field of work.
Teaching is a noble profession, but just not truly valued by others. Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension.
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:29 am to boudinman
Obviously your teachers were paid WAY too much. The 50% would be in addition to their teaching salary
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:31 am to boudinman
Teachers are paid an average of $51,666 in Louisiana.
I stopped crying right there.
I stopped crying right there.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:31 am to boudinman
$51,666 + $13,689 = $65,355
Or more...they come in at experienced level, and if their retirement is maxed it keeps building.
Or more...they come in at experienced level, and if their retirement is maxed it keeps building.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:33 am to boudinman
This appears to be WAE work, meaning that the retirees draw their retirement AND draw a new check from the state.
If someone is retired from teaching but still needs money, getting effectively 45K a year taxed at 15K a year isn’t bad. (State retirement is exempt from state taxes, so only the new income is taxable by the state)
If someone is retired from teaching but still needs money, getting effectively 45K a year taxed at 15K a year isn’t bad. (State retirement is exempt from state taxes, so only the new income is taxable by the state)
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:34 am to boudinman
The biggest lie we have told society is that we underpay teachers.
Download the Open Books app and unless you live in a state capital, the highest paid state workers are normal educators. Administrators are certainly the highest, but run of the mill teachers with 15+ years experience normally do pretty well.
Download the Open Books app and unless you live in a state capital, the highest paid state workers are normal educators. Administrators are certainly the highest, but run of the mill teachers with 15+ years experience normally do pretty well.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:35 am to boudinman
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LA Legislature to address Teacher Shortage using Retirees earning 50%.
A lot of teachers suck in Louisiana. And I'm not saying that teachers are underpaid. But it's pretty clear that Louisiana isn't always getting the best and brightest for this line of work.
If Louisiana paid them substantially more than the surrounding states, people would actually move here to apply to local jobs. Administrators would have a choice in applicants and wouldn't have to rely on just anyone to fill a position. And Louisiana has a lot of crappy teachers just filling positions because they need a body.
If there's a shortage, they really should look at hiking teacher pay.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:38 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:36 am to timdonaghyswhistle
You won't find that avg in any of the rural parishes. Not enough business and industry to use as a tax base. It's mostly an agricultural based area economy.
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:39 am to boudinman
AL doesn't tax teacher or military retirement pay.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:39 am to boudinman
Well these POS work 9 months get 3 months off and then have shitty unions that don’t care about kids and push political agendas while recruiting our kids. frick teachers, tell them to get a real job!
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:40 am to boudinman
Assuming the teacher fully vested, that's 20 years (your number includes all retirees, including early retirees). That's a teacher w/ 20 years experience coming in at THAT salary, plus 50% of their retirement.
Pretty good deal, actually.
Pretty good deal, actually.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:41 am to boudinman
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Asking a state teacher retiree to live off of $27,378 annually is beyond comprehension.
My wife is a teacher and after teaching for 30 years she’s going to get around 45,000ish a year in retirement. It’s a percentage of the average of the highest three years of salary (it increases every year while teaching).
I suspect that $27,000 figure is averaging all the aids and cafeteria workers together with teachers.
Edit:
Actually, the teacher pay really started ramping around 2010ish so maybe retired teachers really are around $27,000 a year in retirement. If so, that figure will increase fast as new teachers retire.
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 8:44 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:43 am to boudinman
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You won't find that avg in any of the rural parishes. Not enough business and industry to use as a tax base. It's mostly an agricultural based area economy.
Yes, which means they get paid a lot more in other places. That's how averages work. Didn't your teacher explain that to you?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:43 am to ABearsFanNMS
My point exactly. Walk off the job this morning. Let the parents homeschool the kids. You ready to manup and teach a classroom of 20-25 14 year olds?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:43 am to anc
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The biggest lie we have told society is that we underpay teachers.
Pretty much true.
“This is what they make per year!! Pitiful!!”
Ok.. let’s figure that with all major holidays off. A week off in March. 2 and a half months off in the summer. A week off at thanksgiving. And two weeks for Christmas and New Years.
And they STILL accrue vacation time to take outside of that.
So they have a quarter of the year OFF. PAID. Let’s figure that in to the equation.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:44 am to boudinman
Are they recruiting properly for teaching positions?
IMO they need to offer competitive pay and then start recruiting out of the bigger midwestern Universities. Poach other state's college graduates to come here somehow. Maybe offer a 5+ year loan payment bonus for them. Advertise that places like Zachary, Prarieville, or Covington offer a good quality of life, solid schools, easy access to gulf coast beaches, and almost no winter weather.
You'd be surprised how far the latter part of that statement would go in places like Illinois or Wisconsin. Both of those states have very good schools and pay their teachers very well.
IMO they need to offer competitive pay and then start recruiting out of the bigger midwestern Universities. Poach other state's college graduates to come here somehow. Maybe offer a 5+ year loan payment bonus for them. Advertise that places like Zachary, Prarieville, or Covington offer a good quality of life, solid schools, easy access to gulf coast beaches, and almost no winter weather.
You'd be surprised how far the latter part of that statement would go in places like Illinois or Wisconsin. Both of those states have very good schools and pay their teachers very well.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:46 am to goofball
Systems like Zachary, West Feliciana, and Ascension typically don’t have huge problems bringing people in. Those are the systems any teacher who plans on staying in a public system wants to be in.
The big shortages are going to be in shitholes like EBR non-magnet schools or Orleans non-magnets, or in the rural parishes which aren’t considered suburbs of the bigger metro areas.
The big shortages are going to be in shitholes like EBR non-magnet schools or Orleans non-magnets, or in the rural parishes which aren’t considered suburbs of the bigger metro areas.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:47 am to boudinman
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You ready to manup and teach a classroom of 20-25 14 year olds?
Yeah. I wouldn't do that for what they get paid.
frick no. And I imagine a lot of younger teachers quit within 5 years.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:47 am to boudinman
We had to do their job for them for parts of the last two years. They still want full pay for that?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 8:47 am to timdonaghyswhistle
It's the rural parishes that have the largest shortages. This bill won't solve that problem. It's a bandaid fix, but not a surprising one from La legislators.
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