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re: Kennedy reaffirms he supports full term abortions

Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108834 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:18 pm to
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OMLandshark has some belief that Jr will help Trump “go scorched earth “.

But there are a few more.

If Trump picked him the board would be covered with the typical 3D chess comments.

Sometime you don’t want to believe it be like that but it do.


I still want RFK to be part of the Trump administration, but this is a dealbreaker on voting for him. Trump would be dumb to throw him out entirely, but I think he would be very effective as the AG, SoS, Head of the NIH/CDC/FDA, or Director of the CIA.

That being said, this position is insane, but, BUT there is a silver lining here… just channel that policy up to people who became full term babies and grew up to be genocidal monsters, and then kill them through one of those positions. I can turn lemons into lemonade here.
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
606 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:19 pm to
They don’t kill completely healthy viable babies at 8.5 months for any reason. If the mother’s and/or baby’s health is at risk, they will induce birth. The pregnancy ends with birth. It is a termination of pregnancy. The baby is born, not terminated.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37384 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:20 pm to
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Government should stay out of all medical decisions between doctor and patient.


Awesome. Let's reduce the right to life to the right to be a patient. I'm sure you have some legal jargon as to why the baby isn't a patient too.

Pretty sickening.
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
606 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:00 pm to
Example: 8.5 months of pregnancy mother suffers from eclampsia, which can cause injury or death to mother and baby. Doctor decides to induce birth (termination of pregnancy). The goal is to preserve the life and health of both patients, mother and baby. The alternative is continuing the pregnancy and possibly losing both mom and baby. Inducing birth protects both of them.

Which option is more pro-life?
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:00 pm to
F HIM
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:11 pm to
Horrifying
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4429 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:12 pm to
There are alot of negatives with Kennedy. There are a few positives. I think he is good on corruption, good on cleaning up the intellegence agencies, good on defense, good on the.border.

I think he is bad on abortion. Climate change, I think he would generally bad on fiscal policy.

First of all, to me none of the candidates are good on fiscal policy. None. Climate change is a scam, and will impoverish this country. So I couldn't vote for him. Maybe Sec of State or Defense.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18455 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:17 pm to
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Kennedy reaffirms he supports full term abortions
This will take more votes from Biden. frick Kennedy but this helps the good guys in November.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9618 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:21 pm to
And a brain worm.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18284 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:06 pm to
Is anybody a moderate? All of them are so extreme.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45826 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:08 pm to
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What a sick brain worm infested frick.
FIFY
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26552 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:38 pm to
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They don’t kill completely healthy viable babies at 8.5 months for any reason. If the mother’s and/or baby’s health is at risk, they will induce birth. The pregnancy ends with birth. It is a termination of pregnancy. The baby is born, not terminated.

What the hell are you talking about? This thread is about full term abortions, not induced birth.

No one is talking about health/medically motivated cases here, which comprise an irrelevantly small number of abortions in any event. Terminating a pregnancy for health of the mother or fetus is not an “abortion” medically or in the lexicon of the relevant political debate.

The enormously overwhelming number of actual abortions are done for pure convenience.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26552 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:38 pm to
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8.5 months of pregnancy mother suffers from eclampsia, which can cause injury or death to mother and baby. Doctor decides to induce birth (termination of pregnancy). The goal is to preserve the life and health of both patients, mother and baby. The alternative is continuing the pregnancy and possibly losing both mom and baby. Inducing birth protects both of them.

Not an abortion.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28509 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:40 pm to
That’s fricking disgusting and abortion isn’t even a huge push button issue for me.

That’s fricking murder.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9515 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:40 am to
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It's becoming a losing issue for Republicans and it's definitely going to energize a lot of female voters this coming election.


I don’t think it’s as big of a losing battle as you think. People have already made up their minds on this.

And frankly, the right shouldn’t be concerned about whether or not it’s a losing issue. Abortion, at any point in the pregnancy unless the mother is at serious risk or the child isn’t viable, is completely wrong, it’s barbaric. Frankly, it’s up there with slavery as stains on this nation’s soul.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10533 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:44 am to
There's literally zero philosophical difference in claiming you're for full term abortions and claiming you're in favor of dismembering and murdering a one year old.

Anyone who claims they support full term abortions is evil.
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
606 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:44 am to
It is a termination of pregnancy
Posted by CarpeDiem
Member since Dec 2011
606 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:49 am to
You said:
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Killing completely viable and developed humans because the mother decided after 8.5 months that she doesn’t want to deal with the consequences of her decisions is simply wrong, and it’s evil.


I was responding to you incorrectly thinking that babies are being killed at 8.5 months because the mother didn’t want the baby. If the mother doesn’t want the baby at 8.5 months, the baby will be placed for adoption, not killed.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24808 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:02 am to
Same ones who thought he'd be taking votes away from Trump. There's been quite a few discussions about that.

If you're a regular, you'd know. He wouldn't have to list things.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24808 posts
Posted on 5/10/24 at 7:04 am to
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Government should stay out of all medical decisions between doctor and patient.


Fine. Get rid of govt funded healthcare then.
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