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Imagine being fined 355 million for exaggerating your wealth
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:22 am
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:22 am
without a jury...(and no-one suffered a loss by your exaggerations) - by a government that prints money in the middle of the night in order to pay it's bills due to it's overspending, and then adds the borrowed money on your children's national debt card with interest.
What a lovely country that protects democracy!
I say fight to the end!!! Do not give up!
What a lovely country that protects democracy!
I say fight to the end!!! Do not give up!
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 7:25 am
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:24 am to ApexTiger
The court is allowed to exaggerate
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:28 am to ApexTiger
It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:29 am to DavidTheGnome
Why didn’t the bank turn him in and give him the money?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:31 am to ApexTiger
I don’t see it as a penalty for exaggerating his wealth.
I see it as a penalty for Trump’s very existence and paying back a loan.
These weren’t freaking home mortgages. These were commercial transactions negotiated at arms length.
The entire ruling is an abomination untethered from any legal principle
I see it as a penalty for Trump’s very existence and paying back a loan.
These weren’t freaking home mortgages. These were commercial transactions negotiated at arms length.
The entire ruling is an abomination untethered from any legal principle
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:35 am to ApexTiger
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Imagine being fined 355 million for exaggerating your wealth
In a private transaction between parties.
That ended up making the loaning party millions.
And created jobs.
And grew the tax base.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:37 am to ApexTiger
Think about a judge that arbitrarily values your Maralago property to only be $18M when vacant 2-acre lots around Maralago are going for $100M plus. Btw, there were addendum disclosures in every one of those loan applications that were signed by both parties acknowledging the assets valued were merely estimates, it is the sole responsibility of the party making the loan to conduct their own valuation prior to making said loan.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:38 am to DavidTheGnome
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But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.
How did he fraudulently apply for a loan?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:39 am to ApexTiger
I seriously doubt this happens to Trump if he’s represented by better lawyers. He’s resorting to amateurs and bottom of the barrel lawyers now and it’s showing.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:40 am to Tomatocantender
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Think about a judge that arbitrarily values your Maralago property
That’s the rub. The law they used allows him to do exactly that.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:45 am to loogaroo
In that courtroom it wouldn't matter if he were represented by Daniel Webster Perry Mason and Matlock the outcome was pre determined.
That so called judge should be removed from the bench for such a ruling and trial.
That so called judge should be removed from the bench for such a ruling and trial.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:49 am to loogaroo
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That’s the rub. The law they used allows him to do exactly that.
Which is why Trump's lawyers proactively have all of this on record numerous times throughout this proceeding. The next level appeals court is a Dem controlled kangaroo, but when it gets to the NY State Supreme then Trump's lawyers will have this lower court judge by the balls with the record of facts. You literally have vacant raw land a mile from Maralago valued at 5 times more than Maralago itself. That alone does not survive a reasonable person standard of the record.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:56 am to ApexTiger
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for exaggerating your wealth
Your entire premise is wrong - he didn't exaggerate anything - he stated his opinion on the worth of his assets and the banks performed their due diligence and agreed - the useful idiots in this thread calling it fraud probably had to get a co-signer (mommy) for their single-wide.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:58 am to Tomatocantender
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but when it gets to the NY State Supreme then Trump's lawyers will have this lower court judge by the balls with the record of facts.
I hope so. It would be awesome to see a sweeping nut cutting and disbarring all the way down.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:00 am to DavidTheGnome
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It’s not that he merely exaggerated his wealth as I understand it. But that he fraudulently applied for a loan. It doesn’t matter if he still paid it, fraud is fraud.
Value is subjective. If you buy a car for less than initial asking price was the dealer committing fraud when they listed it as the initial price?
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:01 am to ApexTiger
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by a government that prints money in the middle of the night in order to pay it's bills due to it's overspending, and then adds the borrowed money on your children's national debt card with interest.
Yea, Trump definitely didn't do this as president.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:02 am
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:03 am to saint tiger225
The only person who wouldnt print money is Conservative Desantis He would fix it all!
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:04 am to ApexTiger
Imagine living a life thinking you can bend and break every rule, shite on people your entire adult life, associate with sex traffickers, blame others for problems you created, and then thinking it will never come back to bite you.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:05 am to SDVTiger
Oh except he (RD) was right there at the trough slopping up pandemic relief funds like the rest of them.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:06 am
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:05 am to DEG
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Imagine living a life thinking you can bend and break every rule, shite on people your entire adult life, associate with sex traffickers, blame others for problems you created, and then thinking it will never come back to bite you.
What does Joe Biden have to do with this?
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