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Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:25 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41777 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:25 am
My son is having a procedure on Wednesday and the nurse just called to go over pre-op stuff. She asked if he has had the covid vaccine and I said "absolutely not". She responded with "yea, I don't blame you at all". I didn't ask for further opinion because I figured it wasn't the time to ask that question but I thought her reaction to my reaction was interesting.

A registered nurse said "I don't blame you at all" in regards to my son not getting the covid shot. When pro-vaxxers say medical professionals are not saying to not get the vaccine, they're full of shite.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119071 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:28 am to
I know probably 10-12 doctors and nurses and not one recommends the COVID vaccine for kids. About half take the attitude at least toward me, "you're fine. You don't need it."
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18209 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:37 am to
Because only dummies would get their kids injected with that crap.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
1901 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:44 am to
Oh yeah, once the door is shut, if you ask most doctors or nurses about it, they will usually share this opinion. They also usually can’t be real honest about it when they are speaking with larger groups of people.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 10:45 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39895 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:49 am to
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I know probably 10-12 doctors and nurses and not one recommends the COVID vaccine for kids.

No you don't. That would be statistically remarkable. Most doctors think kids should be vaccinated. For you to know 10 who all believe otherwise, would be less than 1,000 to 1.

Also, who gives a shite what doctors, much less nurses, think. None of the doctors you know have any knowledge that gives them an advantage in understanding this. It's like asking a meteorologist whether it will rain on March 13, 2027. Sure he knows more about meteorology, but not enough to gain an advantage on that particular question.

Doctors have been trained to reflexively trust the AMA, and other medical professional organizations. It's the same way I, and my fellow engineers, trust the equations and tables produced by our professional organizations.

But the medical professional organizations have been corrupted by politics. So, navigating covid has become more of a political challenge than a scientific one.

tl;dr: Kids probably should not be vaccinated; doctors largely think they should be; and doctors are sheep who are following guidance by organizations that have been corrupted by politics.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91000 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:52 am to
Initially medical professionals trusted the propaganda because it came from sources they usually have faith in.

Now many have changed their tune on it and most I know say if you’re not elderly or have major co-morbidities then it’s not worth the risk to take it since all it does is lessen symptoms
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91000 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:53 am to
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They also usually can’t be real honest about it when they are speaking with larger groups of people.


And this is the problem. Licensed professionals should be able to give their opinions without fear
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11474 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:55 am to
My Doc told me NOT to take it back in the middle of covid. And my sister is a Dr. of nursing an told me NOT to get it. She had more balls than most men and quit her great job because they were forcing the shot.

Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2168 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:03 am to
This story isn't unique as you think but it certainly gives us hope.

Wife is a nurse, no pics. She wants nothing to do with that poison. Many other nurses we know don't want any part of it either.

ETA typo

PS The shot is all risk no benefit. Most of us in the medical field with common logic still believe in the risk vs benefit model of care
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51874 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:09 am to
At the end of the lockdown I was participating in a study at Pennington. As part of the study they had to take blood and tissue samples. The nurse asked if I had taken the vax and when I said "no" you could see her visibly relax before she said "good".

That spoke volumes.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147616 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:11 am to
quote:

I know probably 10-12 doctors and nurses and not one recommends the COVID vaccine for kids. About half take the attitude at least toward me, "you're fine. You don't need it."
same
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41777 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:39 am to
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No you don't. That would be statistically remarkable. Most doctors think kids should be vaccinated. For you to know 10 who all believe otherwise, would be less than 1,000 to 1

For the record, my own kids' pediatrician has said "no" to them being vaccinated. My wife works with a woman whose husband is a doctor and he is 100% against even adults being vaccinated. I am related to another doctor and he does think that adults should be vaccinated but that kids should definitely not be vaccinated. My own doctor has told me he tells people "only if you really feel safe" but that he himself is only vaccinated because his employer mandated it and that otherwise he wouldn't be.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41777 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:46 am to
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This story isn't unique as you think but it certainly gives us hope.

It doesn't give me any hope at all because I took the first two pfizer shots . I got them when they became available since I have a serious heart issue and I wanted to give myself a fighting chance if I were to ever get covid. This was back when each strain seemed to be pretty serious. At that time, I had also known three people to have died from it so it was fresh on my mind.

I did not get the booster and will never get it. At this point, I don't even want to get any other vaccine because of my skepticism caused by the covid shot. Not going to lie, I'm nervous as hell about the idea that I could be walking around full of clots that I don't know about. Oh well, nothing I can do about that now and the only thing that does make me relax is that I got those two shots almost two years ago now and nothing has happened yet, other than the fact that I was sick for much of 2021 and the beginning of 2022. Haven't been very sick since March 2022 now so maybe my immune system is finally recovering. could also be that we're not all wearing masks anymore either so I'm exposed to everything again. Who knows?
Posted by Cajun Tigah
Tennessee Mountains
Member since Jan 2005
4023 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:15 pm to
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No you don't. That would be statistically remarkable. Most doctors think kids should be vaccinated. For you to know 10 who all believe otherwise, would be less than 1,000 to 1.
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You would be wrong. Besides my personal doctor, I have several dozen doctors as clients. Most are against the shots. Almost all of them are absolutely against kids getting them. My doctors response was “Hell no!”
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16902 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

A registered nurse said "I don't blame you at all" in regards to my son not getting the covid shot. When pro-vaxxers say medical professionals are not saying to not get the vaccine, they're full of shite.


She did not say that until your response. Just like local police force she is just doing her job.
Posted by Saint Leeo
Member since Dec 2022
6 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:29 pm to
i never got the clot shot for several reasons, one being my doctor told me not to. the year 2020 really let us see who's who.

i can understand those that were naive and/or couldn't afford to lose their jobs.

people who are still defending the clot shot are either incredibly stupid and/or full of vanity, pride and narcissism. completely compromised human beings, total sell-outs.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:29 pm to
Have you tried prayer for your sons condition instead of science?
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25672 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:32 pm to
People were insane to give their kids the jab when it came out. In 2023 they are guilty of negligent homicide.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Have you tried prayer for your sons condition instead of science?

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but it is ironic that in this case prayer was hands down better than the shot.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124274 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

No you don't. That would be statistically remarkable. Most doctors think kids should be vaccinated. For you to know 10 who all believe otherwise, would be less than 1,000 to 1.
False.

For healthy kids, current CV19 strains are no more dangerous than seasonal flu. They are less dangerous than swine flu. Current CV19 strains do not make kids as sick as the flu. There is no way in hell to medically justify injecting the CV19 vax into healthy kids under an EUA. I'd guess the vast majority of MD's clearly understand that.
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