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re: Does JBE win re-election?

Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:07 am to
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:07 am to
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JKChesterton


Stop lying. You are not and did none of that crap you posted.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:08 am to
So how did Louisiana get back to budget and fiscal policy in the last yeas of Jindal’s term, primarily because of what he did. If you look at Figure 4 on page 25 of the Report co-authored by Prof. Richardson of LSU, you will see Louisiana’s Revenue in the 1960’s was 50% from Oil and Gas, that number as recently as circa 1980-1983, etc. was still 40%. So basically, LA could fund everything with Oil money, nobody had to pay for anything, Sales tax rate was 3%, Louisiana’s Fuel tax (2nd or 3rd lowest in the country has not been changed since the 1990’s, at I think 20 cents).

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Well starting in 2007, under Blanco and the legislature, but mainly with Jindal starting in 2008, the Stelly plan was overturned with respect to the Income Tax part. Look at Slide Presentation by Professor Richardson and others, in 2007-2008, LA changed the Income Tax structure back to Pre 2003, but did not change the sales tax. At the same time, Oil revenues in 2008 were $1.4 billion higher than they are today and just as recent as 2015 were 10% of the budget revenues, in 2017 only an estimated 4% of revenues. In 2008, Gas Prices averaged up to $4.11 in August of 2008, but by year end had dropped, but by 2012 average Gas price in USA broke the 2008 record. So, Jindal’s first term was afforded additional oil and gas revenues along with Federally directed one-time moneys from Katrina restoration, etc. That is why LA’ budget, which actually was $34 billion when he took office, got that high, because the Federal Government post Katrina provided Federal Monies which were non-recurring revenues but were needed for Post Katrina and Rita recovery, You add the additional Oil and gas Revenues and what did Jindal and the legislature do, go back to the 1970’s and early 80’s fiscal policy.

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This LA LAW review article, pp.1149-1151 summarize the Budget and tax history of LA well. The sentence starting in 2009 to 2016 LA struggled to pay its bills, how did budget get balances cuts (that means Higher ED) and listen to this "Diverting money from state accounts set aside for specific use"

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So excuse you for not reading my Bullshite, well, it appears that if you would read you would not make bullshite statements about who is writing "BULLSHITE"
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18430 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:22 am to
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He did away with the cigarette tax, which LA had the lowest in the country at the time because as Jindal stated, not allowing a tax expire that is on the books is in effect a tax raise.


You are correct but he did it because the legislature wouldn't offset it with cuts elsewhere.

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Gov. Bobby Jindal says he’ll veto any cigarette tax increase that wins passage from lawmakers, unless it’s coupled with a corresponding cut in taxes somewhere else.


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A few weeks ago, the Republican governor was pushing for a $1.05-per pack increase in Louisiana’s 36-cent cigarette tax, but he proposed the idea as part of a list of tax hikes that he wanted to offset the cost of repealing the state income tax.

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JBE has the backing of the LA Sherriffs assocation, Law Enforcment


There are 2 reasons why he has the backing of the Sheriff's. You know the first and the second is he backed a 12.5% pay raise for them. He has the backing of the politicians in Law Enforcement but not the rank and file.

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JBE sent out eviction letters to nursing home residents scaring them into thinking the would be evicted. He told the people that LSU football was going to be canceled so he could raise taxes on the backs of the people of LA. He has the largest budget by far in the history of this state.

He has failed on previous campaign promises to reform the nursing home industry. The nursing home lobby has given him well over 1 million dollars to keep the reforms from happening and costing the state over 150 million per year.

He has also pushed for zero based budgets so he could cry to the people about budget shortfalls and raising taxes.

He is about as conservative as Nick Saban is an LSU fan right now.

This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:29 am to
that was his public stance for doing it, he did it to get on Grover Nordquist who opposes all taxes. Everything Jindal did was to position himself for National Republican politics and he did it at the expense of Louisiana. Go read the LA LAW review article I linked above, pp. 1149 to 1151. Now you honestly tell me Jindal had the best interest of the state at heart. And let me repeat, I voted for that jackass twice. No check that, 3 times, I voted for him when he ran against Mrs. Blanco.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25045 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:35 am to
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Does JBE win re-election?
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Simple question.
I'm going to say yes as of now.

His desperation call-in to the O Show was his big uptick. Right after beating Bama, he calls in to say how proud he is of LSU even though just three years ago he was saying he'd have to cancel LSU football. Politically ignorant voters will eat that shite up and vote for him on that call alone, even the ones who have lost their jobs due to liberal policies.

I'm not even in Louisiana but I've followed this pretty closely. The play might still be under review, but it looks like JBE's hail Mary connected in the endzone.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67221 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:37 am to
It’s shockingly a dead heat right now. I think tie goes to the incumbent, but anything could happen. It’s practically a coin flip at this point.
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:40 am to
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I honestly think he is better for the state than Rispone. Rispone quite frankly is a political hack.

Your either a complete idiot or totally uninformed. It's one of the two
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:44 am to
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Your either a complete idiot or totally uninformed. It's one of the two


Rispone is a hack. He published patently FALSE lies about Abraham with zero basis. He also loves hiring foreign workers at the expense of qualified Louisianans.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:45 am to
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Your either a complete idiot or totally uninformed. It's one of the two



You're*

Never gets old
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21457 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:47 am to
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Jindal got us in this mess when he killed the Stelly plan which was promoted by Governor Foster (REP) and Stelly himself (Republican) and approved by the voters. What does Jindal do, against this better judgment, he, not by himself, but he is largest culprit, killed the Stelly plan


Uhh...know how I know you have no clue??

Jindal’s Adminiatration tried to kill Buddy Shaw’s bill in committee and on the House and Senate floor. The only vote that was not for the Shaw bill was Karen Carter Peterson, if I remember correctly. I don’t feel like trying to look up the final vote on my phone.

After the bill passed, then in true Timmy Teepel coached fashion, Bobby Jindal went to national media declaring he gave that tax break to LA citizens. But he didn’t. He lied.

Go look at the Shaw Bill’s co-authors. Did JBE sign on as a co-author after it passed? A lot of Democrats did, and if he did as well, then he’s stuck on that issue.

Also...did you know that JBE voted for more Jindal Administration promoted budget bills than lots of other Republicans? How does he respond to that if Jindal was so fiscally irresponsible?

I’ve got no love for Bobby Jindal’s political games, but JBE helped him in quite a bit of those games, probably to help keep his family political dynasty going. Selfish and not “honor code”.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 11:49 am
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:48 am to
What am I lying about ?
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:52 am to
Really I am an idiot for not supporting we would faaar the President , provost, AD, Coach , etc the guy sounds like an idiot
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10534 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:53 am to
I think so but there’s a lot of partisan voters who refuse to vote for anyone that doesn’t have the ‘R’ next to the name
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26062 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:54 am to
Sadly Yes and the people responsible for putting up Abrahams and Rispone should be tarred and feathered for putting up such shitty candidates.
Posted by Ron Grover
Member since Sep 2019
250 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:54 am to
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He’s also heavily exaggerated Jindal’s mess and increased taxes at a meteoric pace to create a budget surplus and still did literally nothing to work on fixing the broken infrastructure that has been neglected by past state leaders.


FIFY
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67221 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:55 am to
Bobby opposed the tax reform plan until it had a veto-proof majority, and then tried to take credit for it.

JBE supported the plan until years later when oil prices collapsed and the state suffered large budget deficits as a result.

So, one was against it until he couldn’t stop it, and then was for it.
The other was for it until it was law and then became against it in hindsight.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:56 am to
I can assure u I am more informed than u are, so I don’t worship the Republican Party like people here do , or some do, I was once a tribal Republican , no longer . The Bush and Jindal type neocons cured me of that
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158802 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:56 am to
Crazy how the Jindal era started with so much hope, now years later he’s a political pariah and the mere mention of being associated with him is a liability.

He sucked so don’t get me wrong but the “cleaned up Jindal’s mess” is a total crock of shite
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:57 am to
He did not say football would be cancelled that is a blatant lie
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 11:59 am to
How do u propose to pay for roads ? I have my idea let’s here yours
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