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Deporting illegals
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:38 am
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:38 am
Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't cutting off federal aid to illegals be as simple as a stroke of a pen? There is no Congressional legislation saying illegals deserve free stuff.
Trumps deporting plan day 1 should look like this
1) Cut off all government freebies
2) Void any certain documentation that somehow makes them seem legitimate. They should have zero documents, making it harder for them to be employed
3) Have ICE deporting any that get arrested. For anything
4) Build the wall. No matter what. Don't stop if a judge says to stop, tell theater judge to enforce their illegal ruling.
5) Pressure Mexico and Central America to enforce their laws. Build wall at Darian Gap, Build wall at Mexican-Guatemalan border
6) Require legal citizen status on all federal or federal funded projects
7) Halt legal immigration, or cut it drastically.The executive branch controls the immigration department, and should do a 4 year minimum stoppage or 90% stoppage until people can settle in and we can figure out a reasonable process for this going forward
Trumps deporting plan day 1 should look like this
1) Cut off all government freebies
2) Void any certain documentation that somehow makes them seem legitimate. They should have zero documents, making it harder for them to be employed
3) Have ICE deporting any that get arrested. For anything
4) Build the wall. No matter what. Don't stop if a judge says to stop, tell theater judge to enforce their illegal ruling.
5) Pressure Mexico and Central America to enforce their laws. Build wall at Darian Gap, Build wall at Mexican-Guatemalan border
6) Require legal citizen status on all federal or federal funded projects
7) Halt legal immigration, or cut it drastically.The executive branch controls the immigration department, and should do a 4 year minimum stoppage or 90% stoppage until people can settle in and we can figure out a reasonable process for this going forward
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:47 am to burger bearcat
1) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
2) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
3) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
4) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
5) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
6) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
7) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:54 am to OccamsStubble
quote:
1) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
Again. What power does that judge have? Is some random judge in Hawaii going to send the Sheriff to come arrest the president?
The response should be, "thanks Judge, that's a cute ruling, but I think I am going to move forward with my plan, feel free to stop me"
Posted on 5/11/24 at 5:56 am to burger bearcat
It's Mainly a pipe dream. Most of them have refugee status, would take years.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It's Mainly a pipe dream. Most of them have refugee status, would take years.
Again. I understand how it's a pipedream to forcefully deport them. But simply cutting off their funding. Why would that be unachievable. Just appoint some Czar role, to follow through and make it happen.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:04 am to burger bearcat
Since Biden went against the SCOTUS on the student loan transfer from students to American workers, I guess the President doesn’t have to abide by the law. No matter what judge tells Trump to stop, Trump can tell the judge to go pound sand.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 6:05 am
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:09 am to burger bearcat
quote:
Again. What power does that judge have? Is some random judge in Hawaii going to send the Sheriff to come arrest the president?
The response should be, "thanks Judge, that's a cute ruling, but I think I am going to move forward with my plan, feel free to stop me"
And yet, every time judge in Zebulon, GA mumbles “sorry, can’t do that”, the that to which he is referring stops if the that is a conservative-leaning measure, followed closely by every member of the Republican Party calling a presser and announcing that “the judge has spoken”.
So, there’s that. But I like your dream anyway.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:09 am to burger bearcat
So what happens when tens of millions of hungry and desperate families begin pillaging WalMarts? “Choot em’”? It’s one thing to build a wall and keep people out but given the societal dynamics of social media and the MSM, it’s altogether impossible to round them up and force them out when they will resist to the max. With Dems screaming Muh Dictator/genocide 24-7 and Christian America being against the wall. The best hope is for massive Infrastructure Programs to be undertaken and work requirements attached to subsidies. And of course if the workers are to be taxed, they will get to vote. That open Border has sealed “fundamental change” and the Dems know it. It’s more a matter of the details now, as we await the ‘Great Reset’ and the Digital Currency that will accompany such. Albeit the very worst may be tossed but even that is legally problematic.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
It's Mainly a pipe dream. Most of them have refugee status, would take years.
Then speed up the process.
The money saved feeding and housing the illegals would more than pay for the cost of the courts to deal with them.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:44 am to chity
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Then speed up the process. The money saved feeding and housing the illegals would more than pay for the cost of the courts to deal with them
Democrats don’t want this done, it means votes for them. Republicans don’t want this done, it means their constituents can hire slaves, get wealthy, and give money to those Republicans.
Around 200 million citizens DO want this, but their wishes are ignored for the reason above.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:48 am to burger bearcat
quote:
Trumps deporting plan day 1 should look like this
1) Cut off all government freebies
2) Void any certain documentation that somehow makes them seem legitimate. They should have zero documents, making it harder for them to be employed
3) Have ICE deporting any that get arrested. For anything
4) Build the wall. No matter what. Don't stop if a judge says to stop, tell theater judge to enforce their illegal ruling.
5) Pressure Mexico and Central America to enforce their laws. Build wall at Darian Gap, Build wall at Mexican-Guatemalan border
6) Require legal citizen status on all federal or federal funded projects
7) Halt legal immigration, or cut it drastically.The executive branch controls the immigration department, and should do a 4 year minimum stoppage or 90% stoppage until people can settle in and we can figure out a reasonable process for this going forward
That and more, except #5, are in my plan. I'm the only person with a legit plan for this border situation. I don't care about a wall in other nations - not going to make the taxpayer foot the bill for that when those other nations should be doing it, and closing our border is sufficient.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:51 am to OccamsStubble
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1) County judge in Zebulon, GA “sorry, cant do that”
Not even federal judges have authority here - these types of national security issues are entirely within the purview of the President. Courts can be told to get lost and then challenged to keep the border open themselves, and they can even be looked at for subverting US law, which is what they've been doing for decades. You should look at the history of the amnesty from decades ago that judges are still granting to people. Oh and Chuck Schumer was involved in all of that. He's been trying to destroy this nation for decades.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:51 am to burger bearcat
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Just appoint some Czar role, to follow through and make it happen.
We are at the point that democracy devolves into tyranny anyway. I’m not being conspiratorial. It’s in Plato’s Republic, the 5 regimes. It’s why he didn’t like democracy. You can look at what is having to happen on college campuses. Democracy makes people too free to where they do really dumb shite. So they have to be forced out / pepper sprayed / expelled.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It's Mainly a pipe dream. Most of them have refugee status, would take years.
All of that can be revoked with the stroke of a pen. These decisions are contingent on national security issues and a lot of other variables that work against those that invaded our nation. We're broke and we're full. Asylum laws and refugee status don't override the obligation of the federal government to safeguard the US and the American People.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:54 am to OccamsStubble
quote:
And yet, every time judge in Zebulon, GA mumbles “sorry, can’t do that”, the that to which he is referring stops if the that is a conservative-leaning measure, followed closely by every member of the Republican Party calling a presser and announcing that “the judge has spoken”.
So, there’s that. But I like your dream anyway.
This is why the President is so important.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:58 am to POTUS2024
quote:
This is why the President is so important.
And I recall that Zebulon, GA judge stopping the President again and again and again 2016-2020. So, in our system, that Zebulon, GA judge is just as important, or more.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:59 am to POTUS2024
So WE are already caving on deportation? Trump PROMISED deportation. If he doesn't do it he should be IMPEACHED.
I'm tired of politicians playing me.
Trump promised peace in Ukraine and mass Deportation. And I fully expect him to do it.
If we keep letting Republicans lie to us and then just accept it, we deserve what we get.
We have to be scarier to them than the media and the Democrats. If Trump doesn't deport, call your senator and all your representatives and demand impeachment unless and untill he does.
Don't be a smuck.
I'm tired of politicians playing me.
Trump promised peace in Ukraine and mass Deportation. And I fully expect him to do it.
If we keep letting Republicans lie to us and then just accept it, we deserve what we get.
We have to be scarier to them than the media and the Democrats. If Trump doesn't deport, call your senator and all your representatives and demand impeachment unless and untill he does.
Don't be a smuck.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:59 am to RCDfan1950
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So what happens when tens of millions of hungry and desperate families begin pillaging WalMarts?
This is why self-deportation is important. Have to pay every bus company in the US to transport people to the border and hand them money as they step across to the other side.
quote:
It’s one thing to build a wall and keep people out but given the societal dynamics of social media and the MSM, it’s altogether impossible to round them up and force them out when they will resist to the max.
When you cut off the money they will leave. It's that simple.
quote:
With Dems screaming Muh Dictator/genocide 24-7 and Christian America being against the wall. The best hope is for massive Infrastructure Programs to be undertaken and work requirements attached to subsidies. And of course if the workers are to be taxed, they will get to vote. That open Border has sealed “fundamental change” and the Dems know it. It’s more a matter of the details now, as we await the ‘Great Reset’ and the Digital Currency that will accompany such. Albeit the very worst may be tossed but even that is legally problematic.
You've outlined some of the reasons why this is a national emergency, and emergency powers, along with the resolve to see this through, are all so important. And this is why Trump is not the guy. He will wilt - immediately. As soon as the Dems go shopping for a judge, Trump will throw up his hands and go to the golf course where Lindsey Graham will twist his arm for more Ukraine money.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:01 am to burger bearcat
End birthright citizenship. That will stop a large majority of it. They are coming here to spit out anchor babies because once that happens the whole family is never going to be deported. Also need to permanently end religious NGO’s that facilitate the Illegal Immigration. Need to designate Illegal Immigrants as national security risk and basically treat them like terrorists. It could be done but it’s going to take a President with the not give a shite attitude and big balls like LBJ which none exist.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:05 am to POTUS2024
1. Day 1: Undo any Biden EOs and anything related to Biden and the border
2. If the Republicans have control of the House and the Senate (a good possibility, even if by a slim margin) - fund the damn wall. Tie any votes for money to Ukraine to the wall. But it should not require that. Just a straight up vote.
3. If Republicans had any spine, which they don't, they could and should withhold Federal funds to sanctuary cities. Allocate those funds to border security until they cave.
4. Almost impossible as Dems and Republicans love cheap labor, but the only way to ultimately starve the influx is to make it impossible to live a life as an illegal in the country. Make it a crime to rent to an illegal, employ an illegal, sell a car to an illegal, etc.
5. No mass deportations, but draw a line in the sand. If you are here - you get a card and the illegals are granted citizenship over a number of years. After a certain date, if you are not a citizen, and you don't have a card, you are deported. But hopefully, by enforcing #4 the problem solves itself anyway.
Unfortunately, none of this will ever happen. Possibly, the wall, but Dems have shown they will do anything possible to let them in, and in 2028 they would just open up the flow again.
2. If the Republicans have control of the House and the Senate (a good possibility, even if by a slim margin) - fund the damn wall. Tie any votes for money to Ukraine to the wall. But it should not require that. Just a straight up vote.
3. If Republicans had any spine, which they don't, they could and should withhold Federal funds to sanctuary cities. Allocate those funds to border security until they cave.
4. Almost impossible as Dems and Republicans love cheap labor, but the only way to ultimately starve the influx is to make it impossible to live a life as an illegal in the country. Make it a crime to rent to an illegal, employ an illegal, sell a car to an illegal, etc.
5. No mass deportations, but draw a line in the sand. If you are here - you get a card and the illegals are granted citizenship over a number of years. After a certain date, if you are not a citizen, and you don't have a card, you are deported. But hopefully, by enforcing #4 the problem solves itself anyway.
Unfortunately, none of this will ever happen. Possibly, the wall, but Dems have shown they will do anything possible to let them in, and in 2028 they would just open up the flow again.
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