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Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:25 am to roadGator
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Ted Cruz? As speaker of the house?
4d chess IMO.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:27 am to frogtown
I am losing faith in the MAGA faithful.
Maybe he’s trolling. Hopefully.
Maybe he’s trolling. Hopefully.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:28 am to roadGator
Ted needs to be Chief Justice
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The ones you keep voting into office after failing over and over and over.
Do you have any names of all these conservatives that I keep voting in?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:56 am to SDVTiger
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Do you mean all the ones that get their arses kicked all time
Gaetz is a clown which is why I can understand you deep throating him.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:03 am to Bunk Moreland
Candidly I don't really care about Trump selling everyone out on Ukraine (well, at least anymore than I care about everyone else doing it to us).
But it's just ridiculous that guys whose only tenets in life are whatever position Trump is taking on a given day somehow think it makes sense to call out Massie supporters for hypocrisy
I guess "All my views are Trump's views regardless of whether his views change day to day" is a twisted form of ideological consistency
But it's just ridiculous that guys whose only tenets in life are whatever position Trump is taking on a given day somehow think it makes sense to call out Massie supporters for hypocrisy
I guess "All my views are Trump's views regardless of whether his views change day to day" is a twisted form of ideological consistency
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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The same bill that passed with overwhelming Republican support in 2018? Including Mr. Gaetz?
And yet, this time around, Johnson had the chance to shut it down and show American's he might be just who he said he was. But nah, just continue the status quo.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:10 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Ousting Johnson is "silly" and "seriously counterproductive" as it "increases the chance of chaos" and "handing control" to Dems.
The Dims already have control.
They get literally everything they want because the controlled opposition GOPe gives it to them after pretending to put up a fight.
Prove me wrong.
I like Ted and I see his point, but there are secondary and tertiary contexts that add shades of gray to this debate.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:13 am to TigerAxeOK
There's just no good solution here. Everyone we put in the seat is forced to confront political realities that don't exist and none of them want to be on an island doing the hard thing and knowing that half (or more) of their own party will abandon them and a large percentage of their constituency won't ultimately have the stomach for it either.
I do, of course, support standing firm, shutting down the government if necessary, etc. But the reality is that half the people clamoring for it won't be there to back up the decision maker (I'm talking about citizens too here). And what's more, we simply don't have the mandate to do many of the things the most conservative/populist/whatever contingent of the GOP wants to do.
If we're punishing politicians because they're too scared or unable to do what 30% of the country wants them to do, there's just never going to be a happy ending.
I do, of course, support standing firm, shutting down the government if necessary, etc. But the reality is that half the people clamoring for it won't be there to back up the decision maker (I'm talking about citizens too here). And what's more, we simply don't have the mandate to do many of the things the most conservative/populist/whatever contingent of the GOP wants to do.
If we're punishing politicians because they're too scared or unable to do what 30% of the country wants them to do, there's just never going to be a happy ending.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:How Dare YOU!
Ideology matters, not the meat vessel.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:18 am to Pettifogger
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we simply don't have the mandate to do many of the things the most conservative/populist/whatever contingent of the GOP wants to do.
I don't care if the GOP passes one single bill, as long as they stop Democrats from passing any of theirs. And that hasn't happened with Johnson at all.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:19 am to Flats
quote:Democrats are awesome at picking the right fights. Their crazy wing is way more out there than MAGA. Yet, they keep it both serving red meat, and under control. Republicans could learn a lot.
Gaetz (and others like him) haven't figured out that while fighting back is productive and something we need to do, that doesn't mean that every form of fighting back is productive. It can quickly get into counterproductive territory. It might make your seat even safer, if that's possible, but in the context of national politics it can be a drag on your cause.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:20 am to Pettifogger
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unable to do what 30% of the country wants them to do
You think only 30% of American's were against warrantless FISA? If that is true, there's no hope for this country at all.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:25 am to Pettifogger
quote:The solution is pretty simple: WIN MORE ELECTIONS. The speaker should always be picked by a majority of the House, not 8 members and the minority party. That's a recipe for picking a weak leader, with no power. He only go there because of a dysfunctional coalition, the majority of which ideologically opposes him.
There's just no good solution here. Everyone we put in the seat is forced to confront political realities that don't exist and none of them want to be on an island doing the hard thing and knowing that half (or more) of their own party will abandon them and a large percentage of their constituency won't ultimately have the stomach for it either.
DC runs on payback and revenge. Johnson owes more to Democrats than Republicans. That's why Democrats are saying they might protect him.
quote:Exactly. It's how our system was designed. MAGA folks may not like it. But it also keeps the far Left weirdo out of power too.
If we're punishing politicians because they're too scared or unable to do what 30% of the country wants them to do, there's just never going to be a happy ending.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:25 am to Lg
quote:How will a new speaker help?
I don't care if the GOP passes one single bill, as long as they stop Democrats from passing any of theirs. And that hasn't happened with Johnson at all.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:26 am to Lg
quote:I'd wager 70% of Americans don't even know what FISA is.
You think only 30% of American's were against warrantless FISA? If that is true, there's no hope for this country at all.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Stop worshipping ditzy women.
She’s definitely brighter than you though. And America first
You just hate Trump and anyone associated with him. If Greene loved Ron DeSantis you would never type her name
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:28 am to Taxing Authority
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How will a new speaker help?
Maybe they get one that has the "sack" not to bring every bill the Democrats love to the floor.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:32 am to Lg
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I don't care if the GOP passes one single bill, as long as they stop Democrats from passing any of theirs.
Bingo!
That’s all that was needed. He could have sat on his hands until January.
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