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Has anyone ever used a ram pump?

Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:57 pm
Posted by 304tiger
West Virginia
Member since Jan 2022
712 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:57 pm
The reason I’m asking is that I want to know if they can work and pump water continuously?

I’m planning on using a creek that’s close to my pond to pump fresh water into throughout the year. The spring never dries and puts out a good bit of water, and the pond can drain out the water properly.

Any advice would be appreciated.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9429 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:27 pm to
Lot of variables involved. Flow rate of source water and elevation change being pretty critical components of the equation.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:29 pm to
There would need to be a significant fall, from your water source to the location of your pump I think.
If you have that, it would probably work pretty well. It's a really simple concept without many moving parts.
As a matter of fact, I think it only has 1 moving part and that's a check valve.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 8:49 pm to
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Lot of variables involved. Flow rate of source water and elevation change being pretty critical components of the equation.

Yeah, it's only going to pump water as it's available, but the cool thing is, it can wait on the water. There's nothing to burn up or lose prime.
When the water is available and flowing into the intake, it will just start working again.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1779 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:00 pm to
They reprime on their own? I thought they had to be started manually. Also, all the demos I’ve seen waste water horribly if it’s not being consumed at the end of the line.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5956 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:07 pm to
not really, but in Colorado it was possible to pump a ram
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:19 pm to
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They reprime on their own? I thought they had to be started manually. Also, all the demos I’ve seen waste water horribly if it’s not being consumed at the end of the line.

The type that I'm talking about doesn't have anything to be started. It works on gravity.
It pushes water into a capped riser pipe and builds pressure up. The check valve prevents backflow so the pressure can only push water in 1 direction.
I think a good rule of thumb is, it can pump water uphill to 50% elevation of your source.
In the right situation you can increase this.

I forgot to say, it does lose a lot of water from the waste valve, but if you are getting the water from a natural source, that water is going to continue on to where it would naturally flow anyway. I'm not sure I would consider that actually wasted.

I found this simple video that demonstrates how one works.

This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:38 am to
quote:

I’m planning on using a creek that’s close to my pond to pump fresh water into throughout the year.

Is your creek big enough to run a water wheel?
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1779 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 9:38 am to
To me, if it’s pulled from the creek and doesn’t make it to the pond, it’s wasted. Maybe semantics. The ones I’ve seen have a water valve at the pump itself.

Of all the ones I’ve seen, I’ve yet to see one start on its own. Always takes a person to exercise the check valves manually a few times to get it going. Have seen a few homesteaders on YouTube talking them up… and then scrapping them.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 9:41 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Of all the ones I’ve seen, I’ve yet to see one start on its own. Always takes a person to exercise the check valves manually a few times to get it going.

The first time yes.
quote:

Have seen a few homesteaders on YouTube talking them up… and then scrapping them.

As mentioned before, it has to be an almost perfect situation to be feasible.
I've only helped install 1 in my whole life, in a perfect situation with a huge spring on the side of a hill. It's probably still working today.
According to the OP's profile, He is located in West Virginia. There's a chance he has a similar situation.
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