re: The idea anyone is entitled to a "livable wage" is Ludacris

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Production costs have zilch to do with market price. Basic economics. If they did there’d be no reason to manage production costs.

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You can’t possibly be for real.

This is the most absurd thing you’ve said in a thread full of absurd things.

Do you honestly believe that if the cost of lumber triples then new construction homes won’t be more expensive? Because that’s exactly what happened just three years ago.

The reason you manage costs is so you can set a new market price and take your competitors’ customers.

Are you just making up things to say as you go?

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Are you just making up things to say as you go?

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He's currently at his late-shift burger flipping job. You'll have to wait until he wakes up at noon tomorrow for an answer.

ETA: If only he didn't work for a low wage employer living off the backs of others, he'd have a shot at a real job and not have to spend his nights sweating over a grill.

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I saw a Schedule C today, Door Dash driver with only 1099 reported income, and a single deduction for mileage (which was provided by Door Dash). $1k income resulted in a $200 loss after mileage.

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For how long? I mean, this guy could have been in a rural area driving a lot of miles and only worked there for one week. Its not like anyone would believe he only made $1k in a year. Tips alone would be more than $1k in a month.

Guys, I found it. I was bored, so I looked back through this guy's post history.

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I sold 2 small businesses in 2006 for enough money to retire pretty comfortably at the age of 41. My wife had a job offer in Europe and we had always wanted to live abroad. My plan was to finish a novel (still planning to do so at age 59 LOL). I spent nearly 2 years traveling around Europe, sitting in cafes and beer gardens, pretending to work on a novel but mostly drinking beer and seeing the sites. It nearly drove me insane. Was not for me. I took a job with a German company and as a result of that gig developed a pretty good consulting business.
I plan to work it as long as I can stand it and some idiot will pay me for my advice

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Sold a LOT of drugs in high school. Mostly pot and ludes but also hash, some coke and prescription drugs. Was basically a drug mule serving the Cobb County area of Atlanta as a middleman between the drug dealers on the west side of Atlanta and the suburban users across the river in Cobb County who were terrified to cross the river but liked getting high.

Manufactured window pane acid and distributed it.

Bought half pints of Heaven Hil Bourbon and Vodka for $1 and resold in the parking lot of school, a local game room parking lot and Six Flags parking lot for $5 a half pint.

Every home football game Friday I would buy 100 tickets to the game for $1 each and resell them at the gate for $2....they gate price was $3. Folks would line up to by those half price tickets.

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I was not on a path that was conducive to becoming a fully functioning member of society

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Wages do not reflect this. It is a fact that skilled workers willing to work for less money are rare but the main reason there is a shortage of skilled tradesmen is wages have not risen in 40+ years in the trades. I know, I know, someone's nephew's best friend's uncle has a stepson with 2 years welding experience who is making $300k a year but here in the real world skilled tradesmen aren't rare skilled tradesmen willing to work for less money than their counterparts were making 40+ years ago are rare.

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So, a claim to have sold two small businesses with "frick you" money, yet still wanting to find an "idiot who will pay me" to supplement his "frick you" money. This guy is the classic grifter that 100% thinks he's better than anyone above or below him in the financial class. A drunk writer that can't finish a book. He probably didn't even start, much less sell, two businesses because he can't finish anything he started. His little tales are nothing more than works of fiction he can't put the finishing touches on. No raises in 40+ years in the trades? Not only is he not a finisher, he's more ignorant than my door knob.

And that was only going back about three days in his post history to show how much this guy is faking it. And he claims the lowest common denominator in our socio-economic structure are the ones draining people. This guy is nothing but a leach with his bullshite.

His complaint about others turning to crime to make a dollar are 100% hypocritical. He never became a contributing member of society, and is instead spreading absolute bullshite. If this guy was anymore fake, he'd be a patient on House with literal shite coming out of his mouth.

Seriously, from the bottom of my heart, get fricked and suck start a shotgun.

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Why do people think a private business must offer a "livable wage" to anyone?

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What kind of jobs are we talking about? If a private business wants to operate as a functionable company and they don't pay livable wages where as other companies do, its in their best interest to offer livable wages.

People are either willing to do jobs at a certain amount or they not.

Just like the company, workers want to make as much as possible. Does that mean they are entitled to make it? No. In theory its a two way street. And at the end of the day people should care as much about the company they work for as much as their company cares about them.

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OweO

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Why you gotta jump in this thread 22 pages deep when I'm tryin to put it to bed

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What kind of jobs are we talking about?

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To this point, entry level/min wage jobs. Zero skill, zero experience needed type stuff.

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Just like the company, workers want to make as much as possible. Does that mean they are entitled to make it? No. In theory its a two way street.

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Employees may want to make more money, but aren't filling a position that is worth more money. Even an employee in a position making more money can turn into costing the company money in a heartbeat. It is a two-way street. Some idiots in here think it's just raining money on business owners while the poors/uneducated/unskilled are getting taken advantage of. Zero perspective from people that have never been on anything other than the side of "the man is holding me down."

Okay, now let this thread die

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Zero perspective from people that have never been on anything other than the side of "the man is holding me down."

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hence why I said "in theory". And you can't just say "okay I want my thread to be over". Its over when the board decides its over.

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For how long? I mean, this guy could have been in a rural area driving a lot of miles and only worked there for one week. Its not like anyone would believe he only made $1k in a year. Tips alone would be more than $1k in a month.

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When I say I saw it, I know that he lost money after mileage. Drove 1800 miles.

This anecdote can be taken in many different ways as it pertains to the discussion of “livable wages”. The most pertinent is likely that many trying to find a liveable wage are more happy that they increased their refund at the end of the year than realizing they are spending many of their available working hours on a losing proposition.

Another interesting note is that you can create a tax loss based strictly off information provided by a large corporation.