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The Boeing 737 Max is a grease fire. Boeing’s Edsel

Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
5037 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:44 am
Never known a particular model of an airplane to have so many problems.

Scrap this piece of shite.

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Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63783 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:46 am to
Do you even fall apart in the air and nosedive into a fiery death, bro?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32687 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:46 am to
Airbus/Embraer finna eat
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10891 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:47 am to
Hold my beer

Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9726 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:50 am to
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Hold my beer


You're right, but the osprey is at least more understandable. A military vehicle with a very specific purpose and an exotic design...I would think it not surprising to see it has challenges.

The 737 is a regular assed airliner.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101842 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:51 am to
Any truth to the idea that it’s purely a product of our current regulatory environment/framework?

What I’ve seen, says that makes it pretty much completely unfeasible to design and build a new plane from the ground up, such that they are forced to try to continually update a nearly 60 year old platform.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9666 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:57 am to
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The 737 is a regular assed airliner.


how does a window just pop out of a commercial jet?
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7167 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:04 am to
Talk to an osprey pilot and they'll tell you differently. They love flying them. There's stories of them being shot to hell and still safely landing. The aircraft isn't a bad one, but for some reason has been vilified by the media.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38680 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:05 am to
Does’t the Max use the same hull as the other 737 models?
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 11:06 am
Posted by HooDooWitch
TD Bronze member
Member since Sep 2009
10290 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:08 am to
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how does a window just pop out of a commercial jet?


Need to put some of day 200mph tape on there Baw.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1593 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:09 am to
You have zero clue.
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1569 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:31 am to
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Never known a particular model of an airplane to have so many problems.

Then you apparently don’t know much about the history of aviation.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5775 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:40 am to
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Does’t the Max use the same hull as the other 737 models?


Just stretched, because someone somewhere thought cramming even more people into a 737 was a good idea.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
5368 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:45 am to
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What I’ve seen, says that makes it pretty much completely unfeasible to design and build a new plane from the ground up, such that they are forced to try to continually update a nearly 60 year old platform


Absolutely untrue.

They were passed by Airbus in the design of this type of jet and they cut corners, end of story.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9805 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:46 am to


God what a piece of shite. fricking steel death trap.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38900 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:51 am to
Would you fly again if a piece of the plane tore off near you
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38680 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:53 am to
quote:

What I’ve seen, says that makes it pretty much completely unfeasible to design and build a new plane from the ground up, such that they are forced to try to continually update a nearly 60 year old platform.



The 737 Max was a stop gap to counter some of the Airbus models taking market. Boeing’s 787 is a ground up build.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37225 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:54 am to
It sure seems like rather than design a new platform, they cheaped out and tried to modify one.

And it’s been nothing but problems ever since.

Sadly this is why we have to have so many regulations. Because corporations won’t do the right thing on their own.
Posted by CBDTiger
NOLA
Member since Mar 2004
1247 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

What I’ve seen, says that makes it pretty much completely unfeasible to design and build a new plane from the ground up, such that they are forced to try to continually update a nearly 60 year old platform


It needed bigger engines for efficiency. The plane is already low to the ground. Raising the landing gear/height would have required much more expensive FAA approvals, so on the Max they shoved the engines out further in front of the wing, raised higher than ideal from a design standpoint. This increased the chances of control and stalling problems, hence MCAS software (and crashes when those systems failed or could not be overridden).

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Rather than designing an entirely new airframe, which would require a long and costly certification process as well as cumbersome pilot training for airlines, Boeing opted to update the 737 design by fitting larger and more fuel-efficient engines under its wings. But because of the relatively low stance of the airframe—a design choice intentionally introduced to make loading cargo without equipment easier—these large engines had to be shifted farther forward on the wings to allow them to fit. While solving the height problem, the new size and location of the engines created a tendency for the nose of the 737 MAX to pitch up during some phases of flight. To solve this new issue, Boeing engineers implemented the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System or MCAS.

Houston Law Review
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4001 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:35 pm to
That's what happens when long beach bean counters take over an engineering company.
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